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OrionTheWolf -> Feel good laws (4/6/2009 9:07:33 AM)
Was wondering what other people's thoughts are on "feel good" laws. Laws that have negligible to no effect (affect?) but seem to make the populace feel better. One I hate during allergy season is the one where Claritin-D is kept at the pharmacy, you have to show a valid ID, fill out an information card, and then have your name entered into the computer. This was supposed to curb meth production, but just like any good chemist, they just found alternatives to use. Most of the ephedrine type products that the meth labs used were being ordered on-line, wholesale, out the back door, etc. anyway. So what are some more feel good laws, and your thoughts on them? I believe it waste the time of a legislators, and just done to make the less knowledgeable feel good, as if something is really being done.

SilverMark -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 9:09:31 AM)
I guess it is one of those "at least they tried" attempts....I am certain that it has made it somewhat more difficult for the meth-heads but, that addiction is such that it isn't going away soon.

sirsholly -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 9:13:35 AM)
quote: One I hate during allergy season is the one where Claritin-D is kept at the pharmacy, i was complaining on another thread that i had to show ID at the checkout when buying a bottle of Vicks cough syrup. I mean...come on...Vicks? [8\|]

kittinSol -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 9:21:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So what are some more feel good laws, and your thoughts on them? I believe it waste the time of a legislators, and just done to make the less knowledgeable feel good, as if something is really being done. Keeping the death penalty legal is a prime example of a 'feel good law'. While it's proven again and again to be an abysmal failure on every front, it remains on the books purely for populist reasons. It panders to the lowest common denominator in people who want revenge and are thirsty for blood, but who demand the government does their dirty work for them because they are too cowardly to do it themselves.

Vendaval -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 10:18:50 AM)
Orion and holly, Yes, it is highly annoying to be carded for cold/allergy medicine! Prosecuting people for medical marijuana specifically or simple possession are other examples.

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 10:21:30 AM)
Some legislator here in Minnesota is apparently trying to push a law that would make it possible for veterans to have their driver's licenses reflect that they are veterans. The purpose, according to the explanation on news? So that if a police officer pulls them over, or responds to any sort of complaint at their home, they'll have some warning and be able to take heightened precautions. The problem? It would be voluntary. That means that the idiot who is pushing this bill expects veterans to voluntarily flag their driver's licenses so that any time they get pulled over for a speeding ticket the cop approaches their car with his gun drawn. I don't know if my vocabulary includes any words adequate to describe the stupidity of that reasoning.

slvemike4u -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 10:32:23 AM)
Megan's Law and other such ill-advised emotional reactions to heinous crimes.Please make no mistake about it I have no doubt that all and any that harm ums deserve a place of their own in hell,but releasing some one from prison ,after he has served his sentence....while simultaneously branding him with a virtual scarlet letter...is quite probably unconstitutional and certainly unworkable.Rape or molest a minor and as far as I'm concerned you should be locked up for life.The proliferation of offender list's does not serve to make people safer ,though it does have the potential of putting other wise law abiding citizens in the role of vigilantes. The offender list's are in some states totally rediculous,in some instances children have been placed on these lists for the high crime of playing "doctor" with another perhaps younger minor....removal from these lists are nigh on impossible to accomplish.Lives are ruined ...all in the spurious hope of making the um's safer. Laws should never be fashion from a passionate view...they are usually a disaster,these would IMO qualify for that distinction

subrob1967 -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 10:41:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Megan's Law and other such ill-advised emotional reactions to heinous crimes.Please make no mistake about it I have no doubt that all and any that harm ums deserve a place of their own in hell,but releasing some one from prison ,after he has served his sentence....while simultaneously branding him with a virtual scarlet letter...is quite probably unconstitutional and certainly unworkable.Rape or molest a minor and as far as I'm concerned you should be locked up for life.The proliferation of offender list's does not serve to make people safer ,though it does have the potential of putting other wise law abiding citizens in the role of vigilantes. The offender list's are in some states totally rediculous,in some instances children have been placed on these lists for the high crime of playing "doctor" with another perhaps younger minor....removal from these lists are nigh on impossible to accomplish.Lives are ruined ...all in the spurious hope of making the um's safer. Laws should never be fashion from a passionate view...they are usually a disaster,these would IMO qualify for that distinction For once we agree 100% But I'd add "hate" laws to this. Assault/Battery is assault/battery regardless of what sex/nationality the person is.

popeye1250 -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 2:26:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So what are some more feel good laws, and your thoughts on them? I believe it waste the time of a legislators, and just done to make the less knowledgeable feel good, as if something is really being done. Keeping the death penalty legal is a prime example of a 'feel good law'. While it's proven again and again to be an abysmal failure on every front, it remains on the books purely for populist reasons. It panders to the lowest common denominator in people who want revenge and are thirsty for blood, but who demand the government does their dirty work for them because they are too cowardly to do it themselves. Kittin, the death penalty really is a "feel good law." I feel great when they croak some animal who raped and killed a woman or a u/m! And they should make another "feel good law" that they can cut the guy's dick and balls off and feed them to him.

sirsholly -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 2:31:30 PM)
quote: The problem? It would be voluntary. That means that the idiot who is pushing this bill expects veterans to voluntarily flag their driver's licenses so that any time they get pulled over for a speeding ticket the cop approaches their car with his gun drawn. I don't know if my vocabulary includes any words adequate to describe the stupidity of that reasoning. PTSD

SilverMark -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 2:39:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So what are some more feel good laws, and your thoughts on them? I believe it waste the time of a legislators, and just done to make the less knowledgeable feel good, as if something is really being done. Keeping the death penalty legal is a prime example of a 'feel good law'. While it's proven again and again to be an abysmal failure on every front, it remains on the books purely for populist reasons. It panders to the lowest common denominator in people who want revenge and are thirsty for blood, but who demand the government does their dirty work for them because they are too cowardly to do it themselves. Kittin, the death penalty really is a "feel good law." I feel great when they croak some animal who raped and killed a woman or a u/m! And they should make another "feel good law" that they can cut the guy's dick and balls off and feed them to him. That's what we love about you Popeye...you are just so subtle!...

PlayfulOne -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 2:40:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf So what are some more feel good laws, and your thoughts on them? I believe it waste the time of a legislators, and just done to make the less knowledgeable feel good, as if something is really being done. Keeping the death penalty legal is a prime example of a 'feel good law'. While it's proven again and again to be an abysmal failure on every front, it remains on the books purely for populist reasons. It panders to the lowest common denominator in people who want revenge and are thirsty for blood, but who demand the government does their dirty work for them because they are too cowardly to do it themselves. Some people have done things that they just deserve to die for, it really is that simple. K

kittinSol -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 2:48:41 PM)
And it makes you feel good, doesn't it [:(] ?

Crush -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:06:55 PM)
Feel good laws always seem to come with unforeseen consequences. Two teenagers that have sex or send nude cellphone pics become branded as "sex offenders" instead of stupid teens. Even the kids who just received the pic unsolicited get so branded. And it follows them forever. Burn down a forest to get rid of a beetle... Campaign reform laws.... Prohibition gave rise to organized crime. Sentencing mandatory minimums. The list can go on and on...and unfortunately does. (Moonshiners led to NASCAR, so....)

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:17:22 PM)
One of the most irritating laws I can think of is the federal requirement for toilets and shower heads to be low-flow. You can't buy a shower-head anywhere in this country that has decent water pressure. My damn toilet has to be plunged if I use more than a handful of toilet paper. It's annoying and completely unnecessary.

slvemike4u -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:17:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u Megan's Law and other such ill-advised emotional reactions to heinous crimes.Please make no mistake about it I have no doubt that all and any that harm ums deserve a place of their own in hell,but releasing some one from prison ,after he has served his sentence....while simultaneously branding him with a virtual scarlet letter...is quite probably unconstitutional and certainly unworkable.Rape or molest a minor and as far as I'm concerned you should be locked up for life.The proliferation of offender list's does not serve to make people safer ,though it does have the potential of putting other wise law abiding citizens in the role of vigilantes. The offender list's are in some states totally rediculous,in some instances children have been placed on these lists for the high crime of playing "doctor" with another perhaps younger minor....removal from these lists are nigh on impossible to accomplish.Lives are ruined ...all in the spurious hope of making the um's safer. Laws should never be fashion from a passionate view...they are usually a disaster,these would IMO qualify for that distinction For once we agree 100% But I'd add "hate" laws to this. Assault/Battery is assault/battery regardless of what sex/nationality the person is. Dammit to hell,now I have to rethink my whole position here....[:D]

PlayfulOne -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:18:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol And it makes you feel good, doesn't it [:(] ? Feel good? How so? Do I sit around and count down till and execution and go yippee when it happens? No. It is horrible that human can do things to one another that makes the death penalty appropriate. Some people have done things for which they no longer deserve to be part of the earth's population, even locked behind bars. That is a sad nothing not something to "feel good" about. K

pahunkboy -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:55:17 PM)
I absolutely HATE talking to a machine. Add that to voice menus and capcha. IMO Congress needs to go home. We dont need anymore laws that they vote for with out reading them or even understanding them.

slvemike4u -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 3:58:28 PM)
Pahunk I have to ask...what does talking to a machine have to do with "feel good laws"?

MasterG2kTR -> RE: Feel good laws (4/6/2009 5:25:54 PM)
I think these rate as useless "feel good" laws. Federal minumum MPG requirements for cars (useless because it's based on fleet average and it's usually low volume sellers that get the high mileage) EPA pollution credits for manufacturers (useless because they can sell excess credits to others companies that have insufficient credits, and does next to nothing to reduce overall emissions)

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