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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Two things MS...first  off kudos to you for being able to discern the thinking behind our new Presidents words.While the rest of us must simply read and interpret the words...you would seem to have an almost otherworldly ability to state with certainty the motivation behind the words....Kudo's a distraction sheesh..I didn't know that.
Secondly it is a big deal when a country that has tested and would seem to have enough material for 6 to 8 nuclear devices...moves on to testing delivery systems....You are of course right ,at the present time they can not threaten us...but they can threaten our interests....South Korea....Japan.
These are trade partners and allies....if the "Dear Leader" had fired off a rocket...and an American President(any American President) had nothing to say about it questions would be asked the world over wondering why the silence from the White House.
On second thought a third issue has struck me...you state the only immediate threat we face is the economy...let me ask you this.....is it your contention all President Obama need do is work on the economy...he has,in your eyes, no other responsibilities....Let the rest of the world do as it will...if it ain't about money ignore it?

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Amazing President Obama reacts much the way any American President would to such an event.....and one poster sees the President using N.Korea's launch as a distraction another sees it as "the same game the same strategies".
IMO this is not a distraction,this is not a game...the only scenario more destabilizing than N.Korea having ICBM capabilities is Iran successfully detonating a Nuclear device.Thankfully it appears the test was a failure...though it has been said that in this field one learns more from ones failures than ones successes.
    This is a potential game changer...and will force the U S to possibly need Chineese co-operation,forcing concessions in another area perhaps.....trade concessions quite possibly...thereby affecting the economy and not in a good way either(from our point of view.....though China is probably giddy at our discomfit)

An international maritime agency official said Thursday that the [International Maritime Organization] has received a letter from North Korea saying it will launch a satellite between April 4-8. (emphasis added)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

MS following your multiple successive post's  takes a herculean effort....some thoughts though.
No,President Obama is probably not going to initiate some course of action unilaterly....it does not seem to be his style...nor should it be American policy to do these things unilaterly...better to engage the rest of the world when confronting these situations.
Secondly you seem to be upset that nothing was done prior to this taking place.....are you quite positive on that score.The Japanese protested this before hand.The Chinese are on record asking N.Korea not to launch (perhaps at the behest of our State Dept.)If Obamas charisma and blame America attitude cant get the UN to back sanctions....then how effective is he really???

"He and the rest of the world had plenty of warning over a week and Obama could have made some calls and got support lined up.

Maybe used some pressure from China to prevent N Korea from launching.  So by Obamas inaction showed his lack of responsibility.  Only thing he was left with was to huff and puff.  Words backed by nothing is not a real alternative to being responsible.  "

Now as far as this quote of yours...do you know for a fact that President Obama was actually inactive over this...or is it possible that Chinese dissatisfaction,before the launch ,was as a result of behind the scenes talks between our gov,t and theirs.
Lastly,if it is said that one learns more from failures in this field than successes...perhaps we have learned a shitload of information concerning N.Korea's rocket program....it was a failure after all.

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Oh yes....North Korea with ICBM's is indeed a distraction and I am just certain it is part of the Socialistic Distraction Plan from the administration to ruin America... dot com....bit of a stretch even for an Obama hater like you MS....and really a bit humorous.
Let see, Kim Il Idiot, both an insane dictator that once shot an 18 on 18 holes of golf with a Napoleon complex having ballistic missiles...just what the world needs....and just to think, you make it sound as though Obama is such a wonderful planner of things crazy people will do, that he timed it perfectly to take the heat off of the economy.....OKKKKKKKKKKKK.....

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All i am doing is changing words from Bush to Obama and repeating the same theory's the past 8 years used to attack Bush.

• a faltering economy
  
• high unemployment
  
• massive budget deficits at the federal, state, and local levels
  
• education
  
• health care
  
• the War on Drugs

• more power for Republicans
  
• more money for rich people

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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All i am doing is changing words from Bush to Obama and repeating the same theory's the past 8 years used to attack Bush.

Actually not...I never saw anybody post that Bush was trying to distract us from unemployment figures

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I don't know Mark,the tone of these post's reads much like the rest of his stuff.
Pretty much all adds up to "the sky is falling ...and it's all obama's fault"

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

just to think we wouldn't be in the situation today if in the early 90's Mr jimmy carter didn't unilaterally interfere with Bill Clinton's foreign policy ;)
Anybody know what Bill Clinton wanted to do with N Korea before Jimmy Carter got involved ???
Its very hard to find because most of what you read today is the political spin of the events afterwords.
You have to find news articles for the exact specific days......its not easy to do because its also the early days of the internet popularity.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Amazing President Obama reacts much the way any American President would to such an event.....and one poster sees the President using N.Korea's launch as a distraction another sees it as "the same game the same strategies".
IMO this is not a distraction,this is not a game...the only scenario more destabilizing than N.Korea having ICBM capabilities is Iran successfully detonating a Nuclear device.Thankfully it appears the test was a failure...though it has been said that in this field one learns more from ones failures than ones successes.
   This is a potential game changer...and will force the U S to possibly need Chineese co-operation,forcing concessions in another area perhaps.....trade concessions quite possibly...thereby affecting the economy and not in a good way either(from our point of view.....though China is probably giddy at our discomfit)