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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/1/2009 5:54:33 PM

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Maybe he had an "Obama/Biden" bumper sticker on his bag???

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/1/2009 6:15:14 PM

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Where do you live if you think you will never have to work again if you have $4500..My house is paid off and it costs me $800 a month to pay the utilities and taxes..

(I suspect he was referring to the potential lawsuit).

Hmmm... I read his comments as sarcastic hyperbole.

Me too... *smiles*

Heh....It's not unusual at all for most here to extrapolate his comments/rhetoric to the infinite of extreme

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/2/2009 8:05:04 AM

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Typically bullies at TSA. You aren't required to answer those questions...none of their business.

Except you don't get on your flight otherwise, so what choice do you have?

Question:
If they detain you and you miss your flight...don't they have to send you on another?!

I mean, come on...if you missed it because of THEM and they didn't arrest you for anything....oops, their fault...right??

It's not because of the particular airline, it's because of TSA.

It depends on the airline's policies. You will get another flight, but you may have a re-booking fee or get stranded for a day if the next flight is tomorrow.

Not to mention that their next available flight might not get you to your destination in time for the purpose of your trip.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/2/2009 3:51:54 PM

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Typically bullies at TSA. You aren't required to answer those questions...none of their business.

Except you don't get on your flight otherwise, so what choice do you have?

You always have a choice. You don't get on your flight, but perhaps get a later one. Or go some other way.

You might make the choice to answer the questions...but that's a choice...not a requirement.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/2/2009 3:59:41 PM

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Geeze...$4500 is "pocket change" for a drug runner. Heck, I'll carry more than that when I go to Vegas. But it is in my money belt or non-ferrous passport folder inside my shirt. (Usually, though, it is best to set up a marker!)

Moving cash from one place to another doesn't have any reasons...only when you involve bank or other financial entities. Cash in your pocket doesn't require a report. Just caution.

However, you can have serious problems carrying cash, since it can be taken from you and you have to work hard to get it back...thank you very much, War On Drugs/Money Laundering, since 1970.... http://www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement/article/0,,id=113003,00.html (with revisions since then.)

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/2/2009 5:50:33 PM

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I thought it was only sums over $5,000 that they could ask about. This was under the limit.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 5:27:40 AM

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....the large amount of cash- wont even pay the Obama staff IRS debts, the most recent- 7000.00.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 5:54:11 AM

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Unfortunately the U.S. government is making it their business. There are 2 laws on our books that have not been put into practice - yet, but are being reserved for the proper emergency.
One is that you will not be allowed to have more than $600.00 cash at any given time, and the other is that you will not be allowed to have more than 6 months of food stored.
The strip they have put into the bills is actually a computer chip. You can put those in a steel box, and bury it in your basement, and they can tell you how much is there, from satellite info. As it is fairly simple to remove the strip, i suspect it will either become criminal to do so, or they are finding the technology accomplish the same without a visible strip. Perhaps something in the seal, and likely they will not tell us what it is.

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Even scarier to my mind (if my friends' report is true - i have been away and haven't checked it yet) is that some states and possibly the feds are considering not issuing any more gun permits, and limiting sales of ammunition. This suggests we are heading towards marshal law, with the inability to protest, protect, or fight back.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 8:15:59 AM

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Every once in a while one of these stories comes up and I can't help thinking "I wish they had tried that shit on me". The guy was a wimp. First of all my first response would've been "I don't have to answer that". That's right, not formed as a question.

"How about you show me the money in your pocket and tell me where you got it and what you intend to do with it". That's right, they won't because they don't have to and they don't particularly care to. In that way I reverse the situation.

A trip to the police station ? "By all means, they might have a law book down there and I would really be interested in seeing the law against the posseision of cash, I really would, let's go".

I am on terra firma here and I would take advantage of that. Of course care must be taken to assert one's position without creating animousity. I might be able to pull it off, and once done with that I would probably offer them some literature, free, "on the house" so to speak, and urge them to read it "because they really need it". In the end they would get their answer, the money came from selling this stuff, and this guy makes sense. However the difference is that they would have not compelled me to answer. OK, they did not compel the guy to answer, but I would've seen it as an opportunity.

But then that's just me.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 8:27:51 AM

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Unfortunately the U.S. government is making it their business. There are 2 laws on our books that have not been put into practice - yet, but are being reserved for the proper emergency.
One is that you will not be allowed to have more than $600.00 cash at any given time, and the other is that you will not be allowed to have more than 6 months of food stored.
The strip they have put into the bills is actually a computer chip. You can put those in a steel box, and bury it in your basement, and they can tell you how much is there, from satellite info. As it is fairly simple to remove the strip, i suspect it will either become criminal to do so, or they are finding the technology accomplish the same without a visible strip. Perhaps something in the seal, and likely they will not tell us what it is.

manxcat

Even scarier to my mind (if my friends' report is true - i have been away and haven't checked it yet) is that some states and possibly the feds are considering not issuing any more gun permits, and limiting sales of ammunition. This suggests we are heading towards marshal law, with the inability to protest, protect, or fight back.

Can you get a source? I can 't find any such laws out there.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 8:46:34 AM

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Unfortunately the U.S. government is making it their business. There are 2 laws on our books that have not been put into practice - yet, but are being reserved for the proper emergency.
One is that you will not be allowed to have more than $600.00 cash at any given time, and the other is that you will not be allowed to have more than 6 months of food stored.
The strip they have put into the bills is actually a computer chip. You can put those in a steel box, and bury it in your basement, and they can tell you how much is there, from satellite info. As it is fairly simple to remove the strip, i suspect it will either become criminal to do so, or they are finding the technology accomplish the same without a visible strip. Perhaps something in the seal, and likely they will not tell us what it is.

manxcat

Even scarier to my mind (if my friends' report is true - i have been away and haven't checked it yet) is that some states and possibly the feds are considering not issuing any more gun permits, and limiting sales of ammunition. This suggests we are heading towards marshal law, with the inability to protest, protect, or fight back.

findlaw finds no such laws. Also there are no RFID tech in the money. The security strip isn't a chip.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 8:55:07 AM

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You always have a choice. You don't get on your flight, but perhaps get a later one. Or go some other way.

You might make the choice to answer the questions...but that's a choice...not a requirement.

Do you really though?

Say if you are a business traveler whose job depends on it?

Traveling by air is a necessity for many, not a luxury.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 9:01:30 AM

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personally, I'd have just answered the questions. I've got nothing to hide, whats the big deal? It just seemed to me the guy wasn't answering the questions just for the opportunity he got.. being put on TV

ETA: granted, the TSA shouldnt have bothered with him, but still, this wouldnt have been a story if the guy had just answered the questions.

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RE: man in trouble for carrying cash at airport!! - 4/3/2009 9:16:35 AM

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It's not quite RFID or GPS, but it is scannable. I believe manx's statement is an urban legend of sorts, although don't take that to the bank. (pun declined, it is too wierd).

Thing is I can't dismiss it completely because I have heard a few things that many would find unsettling. Years ago, I believe it was central Miami, they did a drug sweep. Not sure about door to door, but everybody out on the street was rounded up and searched for drugs and whatnot. Also if anyone was carrying over $200 on them it was confiscated and they had to jump through a bunch of legal hoops to get their money back, and many didn't or couldn't afford to do so. This was years ago and has slipped from the people's memory, like many other things.

No matter the actual validity of certain stories, it has become obvious that we are moving into a time of extreme suspicion. Where the simple exercising of one's right to privacy is seen as prima facie evidence of wrongdoing. The idea of innocent until proven guilty is long gone. While I can't resubstantiate every story, I have heard many involving such things, like ranchers going to bid on cattle and so forth, travelling with a boodle of cash, and getting hassled over it. It happens from time to time and then our memories lapse and everything is disassociated. However I am able to see the trend and I do not like it.

I really cannot see even this government actually making a law against stockpiling food, but I am reminded that at one time they did make it illegal to own gold, which was then percieved as the base of our very currency. That was pretty much akin to disarming the populace actually during an invasion, a REAL one. What's next, water ?

I'd like to be able to say that manx's statement is an urban legend, but if you look at some of the wacky laws on the books around this country, finding some of this in the HUMOR section somewhere, I have to wonder just what is legal ?

Still does not affect the fact that I would not answer their questions until and unless I got good and ready.

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