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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 3:49:56 PM   
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I have been involved in live in, local and long distance real time relationships. While an online relationship would not interest me I do have acquaintances - both real life and online - who participate or have participated in online only relationships and who have gotten something positive from them. No two real time couples pursue the exact same relationship in real time so I can understand why someone might have viable reasons for pursuing an online relationship even thought it's not my bag.

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 4:50:57 PM   
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I answer this question a lot.  I realize the OP didn't phrase it quite this way, but I generally kick in My two cents worth about the concept of online versus real time. 

Someone else did mention this already, but there aren't just the two ways of looking at this.  There is also long distance to consider and those who are some version of 'separated by circumstance' that you have to think about.  For example, My husband is deployed to Korea.  The majority of our communications over this past year (except for his time home during leave) have been via the internet.  That doesn't exactly make him an online husband.

The same is true for My sub.  While clip's spent more time with Me in the last couple of years than he has with anyone else, he's not currently here.  Right now, he's in NV, waiting to go to KS, and from there will be deployed to Afghanistan.  During that year coming up, I'm not going to consider him a cyber sub. 

It's not that people don't have a point when they mention missing the things in the physical realm.  Those are all very true and I can't debate that.  Personally, I still participate in casual play (not casual sex) to help to subsidize that. 


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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 4:55:06 PM   
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I have an online relationship with my Sir. I have met Him, after 3 months of submitting to Him online and via the phone. Unfortunately, circumstances mean that we are in different countries right now due to His family issues but that will change. It is hard, but the intention for both of us is to move to r/t when He comes back to the US. It has allowed us to develop a strong mental bond with each other and my submission to Him is very deep and part of my everyday life. It is also avery good lesson in patience :)

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 5:05:34 PM   
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At the moment Master and i have a strictly online/phone relationship with the full intention of going to real next summer. It's good enough for now as in some ways it allows us to be more open than we (mostly I) would be in person. but i do think that both aspects have their merits. I'm someone who is extremely shy and most of the time the things i think don't come out clearly when spoken (especially if i'm nervous and excited and talking at a million miles an hour at a high pitch or if i'm tired and mumbling) as they do when i type them out ( i have this vision of us watching tv cuddled together texting back and forth or me texting and him speaking) But the physical interaction, the cuddling, kissing, the spanking and flogging, hair pulling and gagging have much more intensity of feeling when done in real versus over the phone (lol being blindfolded while on the phone just doesn't cut it).

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 5:13:52 PM   
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There are some great replies.  Thanks!

I should have started this as a poll.  It wasn't really meant to debate on online vs offline but to just see what the population here at CM was doing. 

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 5:16:13 PM   
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I use online to meet people with similar interests.  It's always with the goal to meet realtime soon after the possibility of compatibility exists. 

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 5:22:48 PM   
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i have the best of both - online and r/t relationships.

with Daddy, it's online because we live apart however we don't need physical touch to have that connection for each other within our Daddy-daughter D/s. it might not work for many here however it's perfect for us.

on the flipside, i have a r/t (though at the moment long distance) relationship with my pet. next year it will move to 24/7 r/t

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 5:46:24 PM   
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I've tossed online relationships into the trash a LONG time ago. I categorically refuse any involvement online other than to meet, greet and set a time and place for coffee, eats or drinks. While it might be acceptable for others to do this, it isn't for me. I'm a social being, and I can't take anyone serious if they're aren't willing to look me in the eye.

The most you'll get out of me is some very benign banter, small talk and not much else, unless you ask a question or need something explained or want to request my opinion.

The fact that some one is willing to physically meet in a social context will impress the hell out of me. Less than that, let's just say I'll not look on it favorably. My time is precious to me, and I'd rather make the most out of it, rather than spending a great deal of time coaxing a grown woman out of her den, and only to find out that we're not compatible.

Call me provincial!

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 6:23:49 PM   
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I had a rt relationship. If the time comes that i would want another Dom., it would not be online.

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 6:30:26 PM   
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quote:

I would put a question up as to if you've experienced one or the other or both


Thanks. And the purpose of your question?

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 6:38:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: antipode

quote:

I would put a question up as to if you've experienced one or the other or both


Thanks. And the purpose of your question?



I want to understand the culture here..

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/8/2009 6:38:29 PM   
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To me it all depends on who the relationship is with, not the type of relationship entered.

Isn't this a bit like a question such as would you prefer sex on a futon or on a typical bed? Wouldn't who you're having sex with be a bit more of an important consideration?


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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 4:35:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissLaura1973

*grinning* You're quite right - I don't think any of that "counted" as being an on-line relationship - I do know that it was frustrating having to wait (the joys of logistics) before we could move into real time.

I'm actually currently involved in a "getting to know you" relationship via CM - we've been conversing since last December and have yet to meet (again, bloody darn logistics), but everything is in the context that we will meet and will move into real time. There's a definite infatuation on both sides, but we don't know each other well enough to be anything more than acquaintances - whatever dynamic happens between us will happen in real time, what's being bantered back and forth is just bantering - there's flirtation and serious discussions, yes, but there's not a relationship. (I have no idea if this makes any sense.)

At one point this person said that they wanted to give themselves to me; I told them that I was not interested in owning a figment of the ether and that I wouldn't even consider discussing something as serious as ownership until we were face-to-face and I knew that he was making a real offer to a real person, not to a fantasy that he'd undoubtedly built up in his mind.




I love this post! and I think so many people lose the scope of how much different people can be in real life than at the end of a keyboard / webcam / phone. So many people seem to want / need to have ownership of someone within the first three messages being exchanged, and in my opinion such behaviour is usually a good indicator of the person being exceptionally needy / damaged / desperate, and generally not the makings of a good companion for a serious relationship.

As far as online relationships go, I have just never seen the point, it is something you do to have a wank for at night, which in my mind just makes it a particular version of online porn, albeit interactive porn! but then, porn and cyber have never really had much appeal to me, so it just seems the worst of both worlds.

but in conclusion, I will say a heartfelt good luck to MissLaura I hope it becomes everything you both desire.

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 1:44:06 PM   
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quote:

I want to understand the culture here..


I see... I don't honestly know that there is one, in this respect. Bear in mind that you used the word "relationship", and that I see a lot of responses that really don't have a bearing on that. I think when you assess the "culture" your main distinction will be age groups, where generations that grow up with internet will sooner establish relationships that are entirely virtual than will the older generations. I may be one of the few exceptions, as I have had an internet account since 1979, but as I have spent my entire professional career doing internetwork development and -research I am hardly a measure for this. All I can tell you is that so much human interface information is missing from online relationships that most who start out online (kids at home, dorm dwellers, etc., folks who can't really do much R/T) eventually revert to R/T when they can. There is actually by now quite a bit of solid research on the phenomenon, mostly done by computer-human interaction (CHI) teams - it is actually an organization with conferences and stuff, something I was part of for some time with a group of researchers in New York (state). Frightfully fascinating stuff ;)

I don't know if that helps, at all... I don't think the distinction is anything to do with the culture here, as there is such a vastly divergent group of participants, from both camps, or perhaps I should say, all three camps - those who do R/T, those who do O/L because they cannot do R/T, and those who prefer O/L.

FWIW.....

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 2:09:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomThoughts
I think so many people lose the scope of how much different people can be in real life than at the end of a keyboard / webcam / phone.


It's the intangibles that I want, those things that can only be shared and discovered in person ... do they suck their teeth? Have mold growing on their elbows? Overgrown toenails? An intoxicating scent? Calloused hands? Excellent posture? How do they act around others? When dining out at they stingy tippers? Do they open the door for others or just me? Do they smile when a family walks by and the little kid is skipping with happiness?

On-line, we present to the world what we want them to see; if I'm having a crappy day and am in a foul mood, chances are that I won't be on here. Also, I can claim to have done many things with my day and, instead, have remained in bed and never even brushed my hair or teeth. There is no way that someone who only knows me from the words that I've written has any realistic idea of who I am or what I am about - I may talk the good talk but they have no idea if I am just all talk or something else.

Likewise, we build-up the other person in our minds - they become idealized fantasies and I think that we tend to gloss over anything that might be a flag in a face-to-face exchange.

There's nothing wrong with on-line, or real-life, or something in between. We all need to find what works for us. However, we also need to be aware, especially in an on-line situation, that we're not able to see or get to know the whole person, only certain aspects of them ... and even then, a good manipulator can chose what aspects to present and how to twist them to their own ends. (And yes, there are games played in the real-life interactions, too - but it seems easier to be caught / catch on to those issues when you're spending in-person time with that person.)

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 2:39:34 PM   
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I have a online relationship with my 5 year old kid that I never met.  I instruct ppl how to love and care for my kid.  I give them various tasks etc....  Does that sound crazy to you??? Fucking A right it is.  SHEESH 

If anyone can explain to me how you can "relationship" with someone you've never met in the context of caring for a child or a disable parent I am all fucking ears.

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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 2:40:59 PM   
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Not currently looking (And hope to remain as such) but when I did consider myself to be 'looking' and had a profile on CM that indicated that, my desire and intent was for a real-time full-time relationship. 
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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 2:45:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

I have a online relationship with my 5 year old kid that I never met.  I instruct ppl how to love and care for my kid.  I give them various tasks etc....  Does that sound crazy to you??? Fucking A right it is.  SHEESH 

If anyone can explain to me how you can "relationship" with someone you've never met in the context of caring for a child or a disable parent I am all fucking ears.

BadOne



Not quite my words.........exactly. But my sentiments.


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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 2:49:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: antipode
I see... I don't honestly know that there is one, in this respect. Bear in mind that you used the word "relationship", and that I see a lot of responses that really don't have a bearing on that. I think when you assess the "culture" your main distinction will be age groups, where generations that grow up with internet will sooner establish relationships that are entirely virtual than will the older generations. I may be one of the few exceptions, as I have had an internet account since 1979, but as I have spent my entire professional career doing internetwork development and -research I am hardly a measure for this. All I can tell you is that so much human interface information is missing from online relationships that most who start out online (kids at home, dorm dwellers, etc., folks who can't really do much R/T) eventually revert to R/T when they can. There is actually by now quite a bit of solid research on the phenomenon, mostly done by computer-human interaction (CHI) teams - it is actually an organization with conferences and stuff, something I was part of for some time with a group of researchers in New York (state). Frightfully fascinating stuff ;)

I don't know if that helps, at all... I don't think the distinction is anything to do with the culture here, as there is such a vastly divergent group of participants, from both camps, or perhaps I should say, all three camps - those who do R/T, those who do O/L because they cannot do R/T, and those who prefer O/L.

FWIW.....


This is probably one of the best damned answers that I've ever read from what you typed up.

When you mentioned the CHI teams, it made Me wonder something.  A while back, I was listening to the radio and I caught part of a report that named a study that found that internet relationships tend to move quicker due to the circumstances.  Would you happen to know of anything related?


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RE: Online vs RealTime Relationships - 3/9/2009 5:41:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JulieElizabeth

Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if most people here have had, or are looking for an online relationship or a real time relationship either part time or 24/7.

Personally I have had only online relationships with two wonderfun men, and would love to seek a real (part time) relationship. And so I thought I would put a question up as to if you've experienced one or the other or both :)

Thanks,
Julie


For me it is strictly real time. I do not seek words, hot chats, cool chats, email chats. While I can see this fulfills some people's needs it does not meet my needs. For me BDSM is very physical & mental. Sensory input is required to feed those aspects. Its hearing the Domme's voice, not only what she says but how she says it. Its watching her body as she talks. Its all the little mannerisms you can never capture via email or phone. I blindfold takes one sense away but hightens others. Its almost being like a Super Sherlock Holmes detective while in the scene. Being very selfaware of the tiniest things around you. Allowing yourself to completely forget all else exists outside your current surroundings.

I do not know of any online relationship that could meet those needs for me. But everyone's need's are different!

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