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Owner59 -> New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 7:32:43 AM)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090212/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/retail_sales


Now THAT,is some good news!

Gobama!



Coldwarrior57 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 8:18:00 AM)

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/131636.html

yea right !  team barry had it all done.
wasnt he saying something just 3 days ago, that if this NEW pork pack wasnt passed, we would NEVER EVER NEVER be able to recover?
so was he wrong or telling a lie?
its more like GO History.



Owner59 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 8:20:08 AM)

So you don`t like the good new?

Awww.



Coldwarrior57 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 8:23:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

So you don`t like the good new?

Awww.
I like the facts, History proves the congress is always LATE ,
it is good news , so now that we know that things are on the mend, lets all call congress and the white house, and tell them to hold off on this second plate of pork.  lets hold off on spending this $ 738,000,000,000.00  + .



Owner59 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 8:27:41 AM)

Write your congressman/congresswoman/congressperson. [:D]



Truthiness -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 8:46:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

So you don`t like the good new?

Awww.


He didn't say he disliked the good news. He was just rolling his eyes at the "GOBAMA" part, cause a retard with a tumor for half a brain should still be able to figure out that Barack had nothing to do with the good news. ;)



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:03:29 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Truthiness


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

So you don`t like the good new?

Awww.





He didn't say he disliked the good news. He was just rolling his eyes at the "GOBAMA" part, cause a retard with a tumor for half a brain should still be able to figure out that Barack had nothing to do with the good news. ;)



Was just going to say this.



rulemylife -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:08:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Truthiness


He didn't say he disliked the good news. He was just rolling his eyes at the "GOBAMA" part, cause a retard with a tumor for half a brain should still be able to figure out that Barack had nothing to do with the good news. ;)


If it had been bad news then, of course, he would be completely responsible and we would be wading through a dozen threads decrying socialism and how Obama is destroying our economy.

Of course, those would be posted by highly intelligent observers of the political climate instead of "retards with a tumor for half a brain".



subrob1967 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:08:20 AM)

I guess that the spending has nothing to do with tax refunds.

Wow, golly gee willikers, there's retail jobs to be had!!! I might make like 8 whole dollars an hour!!!! GoBama!!!!



popeye1250 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:10:00 AM)

There probably won't be any "good news" on the economic front untill later this year or early next year.
That is provided that President Obama gets us out of those "free trade" deals.
That would help things greatly!
We need to contact our senators and congressmen and start putting the pressure on about getting us out of "Nafta." That cost us millions of good paying manufacturing jobs!



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:42:49 AM)

Any job is better than no job. 



Hippiekinkster -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:47:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

I guess that the spending has nothing to do with tax refunds.

Wow, golly gee willikers, there's retail jobs to be had!!! I might make like 8 whole dollars an hour!!!! GoBama!!!!
Tax refunds. Uh-huh. Hell, the 1099s just finished being mailed out. Tax refunds. The article says shoppers were snapping up post-holiday discounted goods.

Tax refunds. [8|]



Maya2001 -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 9:57:28 AM)

the jobless claims may be a result of this http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/11/AR2009021104311.html  not the fact the economy is improving....  there is no quick fixes,   this is process that will take 2 maybe 3 years to see real results



Marc2b -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 10:05:39 AM)

Economics isn’t just sales figures, housing statistics, etc.  There is an undeniable psychological component.  People make their decisions based upon their perception of reality.  If they think the economy is going to get worse they begin withholding their money (saving it for a rainy day, so to speak), leading to a decrease in the demand for products and services (which in turn leads to job loss).  If they think things are improving then they tend to spend/invest more freely, leading to an increase in the demand for products and services (and hence more jobs).  There are people on these boards who are convinced that we are headed for a depression.  I won’t rule out the possibility of a depression but it is by no means a sure thing.  If we do have a depression it will be due in large part to we as a nation psyching ourselves into it.  Whether President Obama is doing the right or wrong things – while certainly not irrelevant – is not nearly relevant as whether or not people believe he will make things better.



UncleNasty -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 10:22:52 AM)

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

I rarely trust numbers that are put out by the gubmint.

I'm sure not gonna hang my hat on this peg.

Uncle Nasty



rexrgisformidoni -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 10:26:26 AM)

bah link is dead :(
either way I don't think the economy will get better for a few years too.



HotWheelz -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 10:58:13 AM)

I do have to wonder, if retail sales are up what percentage of that is made up by the sale of firearms caused by fear of Obama. 




Vendaval -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 11:18:11 AM)

In general retail sales fall off after the winter holly days and pick up again gradually in the spring.  I think we are also seeing more optimism from the public as a result of the change in administrations and the economic stimulus plan.
 
Maya, do you have the name or another link for that article? The one posted is not working.



Lucylastic -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 11:27:16 AM)

DOnt know if Maya is online so I searched it down, there was a space to many at the end of the html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/11/AR2009021104311.html
The title is "More employers fighting unemployment" Out of Work and Challenged on Benefits, Too.
In Record Numbers, Employers Move to Block Unemployment Payouts


Lucy



Vendaval -> RE: New jobless claims drop slightly-Retail sales rise unexpectedly (2/12/2009 11:50:15 AM)

Thanks Lucy, will look at that later, have errands to run.



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