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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

DOnt know if Maya is online so I searched it down, there was a space to many at the end of the html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/11/AR2009021104311.html
The title is "More employers fighting unemployment" Out of Work and Challenged on Benefits, Too.
In Record Numbers, Employers Move to Block Unemployment Payouts


Lucy

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ORIGINAL: HotWheelz

I do have to wonder, if retail sales are up what percentage of that is made up by the sale of firearms caused by fear of Obama. 

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Economics isn’t just sales figures, housing statistics, etc.  There is an undeniable psychological component.  People make their decisions based upon their perception of reality.  If they think the economy is going to get worse they begin withholding their money (saving it for a rainy day, so to speak), leading to a decrease in the demand for products and services (which in turn leads to job loss).  If they think things are improving then they tend to spend/invest more freely, leading to an increase in the demand for products and services (and hence more jobs).  There are people on these boards who are convinced that we are headed for a depression.  I won’t rule out the possibility of a depression but it is by no means a sure thing.  If we do have a depression it will be due in large part to we as a nation psyching ourselves into it.  Whether President Obama is doing the right or wrong things – while certainly not irrelevant – is not nearly relevant as whether or not people believe he will make things better.

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ORIGINAL: rexrgisformidoni

Any job is better than no job. 

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: rexrgisformidoni

Any job is better than no job. 

 

       Not if it messes up the welfare checks...

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ORIGINAL: Coldwarrior57

to the original post
"NEW YORK – Americans bought a sweater or two, ate out a little more, purchased some gadgets and turned to the Internet in search of bargains in January. These small indulgences nevertheless provided some relief to suffering stores, boosting retail sales by 1 percent."
the comment go obama.
hmm lets do the math.
Obama took the oath of office jan 20th at noon. His first full day was really the 21'st. So if  team barry did it, then he is a god ! He was able to fix the economy in 10 days!. ( we will see what the feb #'s hold).
if he isnt a god and the economy was on the upswing before he took the oath , then the praise belongs to BUSH!
OMG, how terrible.

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Economics isn’t just sales figures, housing statistics, etc.  There is an undeniable psychological component.  People make their decisions based upon their perception of reality.  If they think the economy is going to get worse they begin withholding their money (saving it for a rainy day, so to speak), leading to a decrease in the demand for products and services (which in turn leads to job loss).  If they think things are improving then they tend to spend/invest more freely, leading to an increase in the demand for products and services (and hence more jobs).  There are people on these boards who are convinced that we are headed for a depression.  I won’t rule out the possibility of a depression but it is by no means a sure thing.  If we do have a depression it will be due in large part to we as a nation psyching ourselves into it.  Whether President Obama is doing the right or wrong things – while certainly not irrelevant – is not nearly relevant as whether or not people believe he will make things better.

So true....... the reason the former depression was so bad was because people panicked they sold of stocks and bonds, pulled money out of the bank and shoved their money under their mattresses... with no money  circulating and working ..the economy crashed


many here talk about killing the trade agreements to bring back and save jobs

well that happen in the past and led to  the great depression, and as soon as that happened the trade wars occurred  ...which severely hurt US export and killed jobs...in July 1930 the US  wrote a bill that hiked tariffs on 20,000 imported goods saying it would save american jobs .  at that time the unemployment rate was 7.8%   ..two years later imports went from a high of 1.9B down to 390M , exports to europe fell 2.3B to 784M and cross border exports fell by 30%,  unemployment in US soared to 25%,
So when you start playing around with trade agreements  as a protection measure you can be bit in the ass because that can hurt exports and in the end cause greater job losses.  ..Do a bit of research on the Smoot-Hawley tariff  and right now with the new stimulus bill which would require major public works projects to favour U.S. steel, iron and manufactured goods over imported ones.  it a repeat of the past which could plunge the US into another Great depression..just maybe a lot of the big US corporations have seen the writing on the wall and that maybe one reason why they tried  expanding  globally inorder to try and survive the potential  tarrif wars

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

There probably won't be any "good news" on the economic front untill later this year or early next year.
That is provided that President Obama gets us out of those "free trade" deals.
That would help things greatly!
We need to contact our senators and congressmen and start putting the pressure on about getting us out of "Nafta." That cost us millions of good paying manufacturing jobs!

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

Economics isn’t just sales figures, housing statistics, etc.  There is an undeniable psychological component.  People make their decisions based upon their perception of reality.  If they think the economy is going to get worse they begin withholding their money (saving it for a rainy day, so to speak), leading to a decrease in the demand for products and services (which in turn leads to job loss).  If they think things are improving then they tend to spend/invest more freely, leading to an increase in the demand for products and services (and hence more jobs).  There are people on these boards who are convinced that we are headed for a depression.  I won’t rule out the possibility of a depression but it is by no means a sure thing.  If we do have a depression it will be due in large part to we as a nation psyching ourselves into it.  Whether President Obama is doing the right or wrong things – while certainly not irrelevant – is not nearly relevant as whether or not people believe he will make things better.

So true....... the reason the former depression was so bad was because people panicked they sold of stocks and bonds, pulled money out of the bank and shoved their money under their mattresses... with no money  circulating and working ..the economy crashed


many here talk about killing the trade agreements to bring back and save jobs

well that happen in the past and led to  the great depression, and as soon as that happened the trade wars occurred  ...which severely hurt US export and killed jobs...in July 1930 the US  wrote a bill that hiked tariffs on 20,000 imported goods saying it would save american jobs .  at that time the unemployment rate was 7.8%   ..two years later imports went from a high of 1.9B down to 390M , exports to europe fell 2.3B to 784M and cross border exports fell by 30%,  unemployment in US soared to 25%,
So when you start playing around with trade agreements  as a protection measure you can be bit in the ass because that can hurt exports and in the end cause greater job losses.  ..Do a bit of research on the Smoot-Hawley tariff  and right now with the new stimulus bill which would require major public works projects to favour U.S. steel, iron and manufactured goods over imported ones.  it a repeat of the past which could plunge the US into another Great depression..just maybe a lot of the big US corporations have seen the writing on the wall and that maybe one reason why they tried  expanding  globally inorder to try and survive the potential  tarrif wars

Note: After Smoot-Hawley the US had 6 years of a trade surpluses, 1 even and 1 deficit in the next 8. The idea that tariffs enacted in Smoot-Hawley brought about trade deficits or a 'trade war' is just only so much more historical capitalist propaganda.

Similar to the BS that NAFTA was going to employ Mexicans...in Mex. and they would stop coming here. For the last 15-20 years or more, the Mexican capitalist oligarchy has prevented the creation of millions of jobs in Mex. and thus have still most labor making little more than $9 PER DAY.

I got a million of 'em.