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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 6:10:13 AM

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There were times that I didnt trust my intuition or follow it, and each time I did regret it. My intuition has always been strong, and most of the time I have listen to it. At this age I not so foolish to not listen, so i keep my mind focus on it.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 7:23:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jeptha

Does your intuition work?

If not, can it be fixed?

Mine works perfectly. What hasn't is, as Marc said so well, all of the other noise that tries to drown it out.

What comes in time, is the combination of self confidence and self discipline, to both ignore outside pressures, and often desire. To do what, isn't always the easiest, but what your instinct is telling you should be done.

Some people never get it. Some seem almost to be born with it.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 7:49:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: Jeptha
My first day of high school, I recall meeting some guy and my first thought was "There's a guy I'll probably have to fight." teen-age testosterone induced thoughts...
Similarly, some time ago I had a huge crush on a co-worker. testosterone induced desire...neither a good example of failed intuition.

Does your intuition work? my intuition works well, but have not always heeded the warnings and learned some tough lessons. call it 'gut instinct', or whatever you want but always pay attention to it for it can literally save your life! if your gut tells you not to get into an elevator with a certain person already in it, wait for the next one!

If not, can it be fixed? the ability to pay attention to intuition, gut instinct, red flags etc can be honed but if someone deliberately chooses to ignore these things, then there isn't much you can do. if you have a 'feeling' that you are wasting time with an online faker, but choose to ignore the red flags that caught the attention of your intuition because you want so much to beleive they are everything they claim to be, then you have no one to blame but yourself when they disappear as fakers often do. (or show up for your first meeting as an entirely different person!!)

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 8:09:45 AM

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I know mine works because I haven't had a truly rotten-through person in my life...so I must be doing something right.

Can't say I've been abused (much hehe) nor ever been played either, so yeah, I got great intuition.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:02:08 AM

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How many examples can you give of instances where your intuition did work? I'm guessing a heck of a lot more, and even then, you'd probably be undercounting them because 99 times out of 100, most people don't notice that our intuition worked. We just take it for granted.

Hmmm, perhaps...I'll have to sort it out a little. I guess I'm not sure at this point what intuition is, or how one experiences it.

I had thought of it as some sort of quasi-mystical thing, a strong feeling or inclination that wasn't based on rational analysis...I guess.

Nikitaa said she thought intuition came from experience.
I wonder that too: if it isn't based on association with past experiences... The problem there being that you may just be projecting past associations onto present things ~ which isn't always going to be accurate.

I thought of intuition as an amalgam of experience as well as the guiding hand of "common sense" (another fuzzy term), influenced by fears and fantasies (some pop-cultural, some personal); conflict avoidance or pleasure seeking, - and finally, influenced by simple inertia (the tendency to avoid change).

I considered that these things all balanced each other out somehow in some type of inner account balancing, and the result was "intuition".

I may be off the mark on that, though.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:15:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
I think the art of fine-tuning intuition is knowing how to decipher the difference between the over thinking "noise" of logical thought processes from the more subtle senses that gently inform. Or in other words, over intellectualizing a matter and not listening to feeling.

Interesting.
At first, I wonder if the "feelings" that you are listening to couldn't be born out of insecurity or neurosis (to use language of about two centuries ago)...Because, don't some people feel impelled to do things that aren't good for them?

~Has anyone followed their intuition to their detriment?

(Not trying to knock those who testify - just looking for both sides of the equasion...if there is another side. There may not be, but the question should be asked.)

Perhaps people who have dinked around in the fields of "rational emotive therapy" (does that sound like it places too much of a premium on the rational? Perhaps the emotive should get top billing, thus; Emotive Rational Therapy) or "cognitive behavioral therapy" have addressed these kinds of questions...

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:26:56 AM

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There is a very good book written about following your gut called "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin deBecker. I highly recommend it. Our intuition is informing us all the time.

An experience of mine -

I was the only woman on the midnight shift of a factory. The suggestion was made to go for a drink after the shift. In the end it was 2 guys and myself that wanted to go so one invited us to his house. Didn't really feel like going but didn't want to seem rude.
They were already there when I got there and automatically handed me a beer. Their attention seemed to be really focused on me and when the host popped the top on my beer I thought the sound came from the other guy's can. Luckily never in my life have I liked beer and I told him so.
He told me what else he had and I settled for Diet Coke. After that the host seemed to get bored. Things ended fairly quickly after that.
I think if I were a beer drinker the story would have had a lot different ending.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:30:07 AM

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hmm intuition and pheromones are different things. I guess learning to tell the difference between strong attractions and what they mean to you about that person might be fixable.

So you are suggesting that we exchange skivvies after we decide we might have some things in common? Doesn't that violate some sort of law? Lol.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:31:07 AM

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Re: online relationships and pheromones.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 10:49:22 AM

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I have an intuition that works but unfortunatly my cock has one as well and the two opinions can never agree to disagree. Hence although I tend to know better I do at times have the tendency to accidently fall into a pussy that is not compleatly to my minds benefit but does benefit other parts of me that should never be listened to.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 11:17:57 AM

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I think everyone has a sense of intuition to some degree. I rely on mine quite a bit, and as some of the others said, it's hard at times to distinguish between an internal sense or warning, and the "paranoia" brought on by over-thinking something. I think it takes some experiences and retroactive learning to be able to recongize which is which. It's kind of a delicate and blurry line sometimes.

And for me, as much as the intuition can aide in recognizing "danger", it can also aid me by pulling me towards a place, a thing, a person, without the logic part of my brain having any clue as to why. But there's always a discovery to be had. So yes, I do rely on it, trust it, try to listen to it, and sometimes allow it to navigate me.

Interesting topic.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 12:47:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jeptha

Does your intuition work?

I'm not a fan of making a snap judgement and writing people off. That judgement is a matter of personal standards (high or low) that are underpinned by your personal values, which, unless you think you don't need to learn, are open to change; they're not the gospel. I'm yet to meet a person who hasn't had something to offer; something with which you can connect. At first you may not see it, but scratch the surface and it will be there. I mean, we're all just getting our heads down and making the best of life: we're not so different. I reckon I could go for a beer with anyone on this planet and find something to talk about from which to build a friendship. I limit my number of friends purely because I can only deal with so much information coming at my head, rather than because I think there are people out there with which I can't be friends.

Ideas and perceptions change - even within a day.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:15:04 PM

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I think everyone has a sense of intuition to some degree. I rely on mine quite a bit, and as some of the others said, it's hard at times to distinguish between an internal sense or warning, and the "paranoia" brought on by over-thinking something. I think it takes some experiences and retroactive learning to be able to recongize which is which. It's kind of a delicate and blurry line sometimes.

That's my problem. While I know I have a history of my first impressions of people being fairly accurate, I also have a history of being somewhat paranoid of people's motives, which is not improved by new negative experiences. I tend to write people off too soon in an effort to avoid being hurt. Also, when I feel a strong attraction to someone, it is such a rarity that I override the intuition or paranoia that's telling me they're a jerk until I can find out for sure. Its messy, but I imagine that taking note of these feelings over time can hone one's ability to pick good friends, partners and situations. It would be nice if intuition and the heart were more in agreement. I don't think they're the same thing at all.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:23:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

If you don't go with your intuition, what else are you working with?

Bazooka Joe bubble gum inserts and fortune cookies.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:26:21 PM

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Mine is the magic 8 ball.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:28:17 PM

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i have a tendency to not follow my intuition when it comes to people for whatever reason, i usually end up in a bit of trouble but i feel that i shouldn't preconceive a person's intentions or personality without giving it a shot.

Even according to Nikitaa's definition i fail at following it because i hate thinking everyone is the same and will do the same thing.

My lack of gut following is hopefully going to change since i'm still young

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:29:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: skinn

Intuition = Wisdom. Wisdom = Intuition.

I'd say this is pretty much spot on.

Unfortunately for us human types, wisdom generally comes with age and is gained through experiences (both positive and negative) and by the time we amass a good amount of wisdom and the resulting better judgment, the world has changed dramatically and we are at the age where all that's left to do is just pass on what we know before senility sets in robs us of all we have learned...

...OK, that was a little tongue and cheek-y, but you get what I'm sayin' right?...

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:37:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

If you don't go with your intuition, what else are you working with?

Try 'Take a Chance' from Monopoly. I used to live my life by it until I picked up a card stating: "You are Nietzsche. You're the type of fool who's been living in a hut in total isolation for the last 10 years. Hopefully, you will go insane. Most definitely, your philosophy will be cynically manipulated by Hitler. Miss a go".

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 1:55:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Voodali

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I think everyone has a sense of intuition to some degree. I rely on mine quite a bit, and as some of the others said, it's hard at times to distinguish between an internal sense or warning, and the "paranoia" brought on by over-thinking something. I think it takes some experiences and retroactive learning to be able to recongize which is which. It's kind of a delicate and blurry line sometimes.

That's my problem. While I know I have a history of my first impressions of people being fairly accurate, I also have a history of being somewhat paranoid of people's motives, which is not improved by new negative experiences. I tend to write people off too soon in an effort to avoid being hurt. Also, when I feel a strong attraction to someone, it is such a rarity that I override the intuition or paranoia that's telling me they're a jerk until I can find out for sure. Its messy, but I imagine that taking note of these feelings over time can hone one's ability to pick good friends, partners and situations. It would be nice if intuition and the heart were more in agreement. I don't think they're the same thing at all.

I'm very similar to what you described above. And I think that intuition is just like any other sense that we have, and when outside forces are interfering with that sense, it can fail us or be imperfect. For instance, when you're in a room with music playing and someone is talking to you, and you hear something they said incorrectly, or you're reading in a poorly-lit room and you mistake the letter f for the letter p. In a relationship situation, it could be an over-riding desire to make that relationship work that obscures the voice of intuition, etc.

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RE: Trust the intuition or not? - 2/12/2009 3:22:56 PM

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I would say i trust my intuition and first impressions normally for me are the most accurate.(but certainly not a perfect system)
However i think we have to be so careful that intuition is in fact not a self fulfilling prophecy.

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