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rulemylife -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/30/2009 6:17:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Funny, I've never been searched, or even asked to step out of my car during a traffic stop, and I carry a gun.


I think you missed his point.

Cops like to troll for DUI's and drugs, because, after all, no respectable citizen should be out on the roads at 3 AM.

I've had similar experiences going to work on early-morning calls.




came4U -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/30/2009 7:24:36 PM)

Excelled Vid to show the youngins or new drivers.

Busted_The_Citizens_Guide_To_Surviving_Police_Encounters 1
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4hFd4rJ5m9Q&feature=related






MistressXahDee -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/30/2009 8:07:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/judicial/supremecourtopinions/2009-01-26-scotus-passenger-police_N.htm?csp=34

Of course, "reasonable" to a cop is a fishing license. The new crime will be "riding as a passenger while black", not just DWB.

Oh, those wonderful "conservative" Supremes.

Sacrificing the Constitution to make America MJ-free.

This latest assault on Free Citizens comes to you courtesy of RM Nixon and his War on Getting High. Don't believe me? (cory?)
"
The Drug War's Collateral Damage
Drug prohibition militarizes our police, enriches our enemies, undermines our laws, and condemns our sick to suffering.  http://www.reason.com/news/show/131131.html


Hmm, so it is not enough for me to get pulled over for a DWB (b=black or brown) these days? Now i'm a target if I am anywhere in the 'nice' car...

Well, thanks for the update Hippiekinkster, talk about the bearer of bad news.




StrangerThan -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/31/2009 5:35:50 AM)

Every state will have different laws. Where I used to live it was quite legal to carry a gun in a car. What was illegal was for that weapon to be hidden unless you were licensed for concealed carry. The only time I was stopped with a gun in the car was for a seat belt violation. Yeah, I don't wear them much.

Cop stops me. Comes to the car. First thing I tell him is that I have a weapon in the car. Not the second thing, nor the third, the first. I didn't want him seeing it before I told him, didn't want him "finding it", or anything else. The stop went well. He didn't even write me a ticket.

Cops are people, albeit people who have been taught to look for suspicious things and suspicious actions. They're also people who have to consider every car they approach might be the one where a gun is pulled or used. Being calm, showing respect generally defuses most of that upfront. And sometimes, you may have to defuse the situation up front. It's not the time to get into a pissing contest.

To the OP, if judges and legislators don't kill the amendments outright, society will. Anyone who served in the military knows that you swear to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foriegn and domestic. I tend to think we have a lot less to fear from foreign agencies than we do those that operate within our own borders and are either damned well intent on protecting us from ourselves, or deciding what is appropriate for one to think and say. There's more outcry over someone being offended these days than someone committing treason.




MistresseLotus -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/31/2009 7:57:42 AM)

I guess you'd have to be a cop to see the validity to it. 




Steponme73 -> RE: Fourth Amendment: Going, going.... (1/31/2009 10:14:24 AM)

The 4th has been eroding for some time.  It is just a matter of a little more time and it will be null and void....Just have to love Policticans who know what's best for us in their humble opinion or whoever pays them the most money.




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