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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 5:25:13 PM   
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Yeah, I take fishoil caps too and Lecithin to clear out the arteries.


Sir refers to soft drinks as "industrial degreasing agents" and "malted battery acid".  I see them more as "chelating agents".  What more do I need to keep my CV system healthy? 
 


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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 7:40:43 PM   
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and yet old timers from back in the day never seen a dr and will out live me.


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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 7:43:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Congratulations Popeye, you will live to be in your 90s!
Along with all the other helpful suggestions on this thread, I
wanted to add oatmeal, and flaxseed oil to the mix!
 
There is a wonderful book called "The 8 Week Cholesterol Cure", if you follow
the recommendations in this book,
normally you can dramatically reduce your cholesterol levels.


Being healthy and alive is a good thing!


< Message edited by MzMia -- 1/27/2009 8:00:44 PM >

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 8:49:27 PM   
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Come on hunkboy, ye ole timers frequently died young from diseases that we prevent through innoculations and improved sanitation \and treat with modern medicine now.


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and yet old timers from back in the day never seen a dr and will out live me.



thats true.    trust but verify.  do your own research,

if I was put on lipitor or the like- once it came down- I would come off of it.  via a DR managed.    I find that they write RXs for people that are boarder line.   The pushers ever would like to put stantens IN the water supply.

 I thought it was a magic pill.... but lucky I got a routine check up where they check the blood.   which brings me to the point- with many meds the liver should be checked.

the liver works 24-7 ridding the body of all the toxins.   we ingest a whole lot of them.

...being that the FDA approved this and that - some nasty pills- and DRs have even spoke out on the FDA... trust but verify

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 8:56:27 PM   
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There be some evidence that low cholesterol is about as bad, statistically, as high cholesterol.


Yup, first there was only one cholesterol, and it was all bad. Now there's, what, good, bad, super-bad, and double-plus-good? And too low is bad as well?
I figure I'll just sit it out this year.
Next year, they'll decide that all cholesterol is good, the people who took all the meds to get it down will be taking different meds to get it up, and I'll be sitting pretty

-W
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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/27/2009 9:47:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		LOL  well my cholesterol and blood sugar, TSH, calcium, ALT, enzymes  and b levels are the few   things that are good.....though a lot of my other blood lab work is a mess such as ANA, ferrous, RF, ESR, CRP to name a few
I have blood pressure that ranges from 80/50 to 120/80 ... and a heart rate that can range from 45 to 200 beats a minute due to a tumor which is affecting the vagus nerve  such that it  is affecting the hearts electrical impulses so I am on Tiazac  to control.




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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 1:49:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you are over 40....go to a Dr. at least once a year!...pahunk is correct about some meds but, that depends on YOUR body and how it reacts to the meds. I am in the Dr.s once every 6 months and I believe that if I hadn't started when I did I would have already had a stroke. My B/P is now in "normal" range daily but at one time I was at serious risk and I had NO IDEA!!!!....It took me actually getting so angry one time that I felt like I was going to explode and then my physical reaction(serious headaches) to find out just how serious and DEADLY B/P and cholesterol can be. I appear to be healthy, always have appeared to be, 5'9, slender, well defined physically and inside I had a time bomb....I am glad so many of you know and understand your numbers.


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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 2:23:50 AM   
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and yet old timers from back in the day never seen a dr and will out live me.

Yes and the reason is that neither cholesteral or saturated fat in the blood has any effect on heart desease or stroke and particularly as it relates to clogged arteries.

There is not a single clinical trial that demonstrates that a high levels of cholesteral or saturated fat in the blood has any effect on your long term health.

In fact when studies showed that cholesteral in the blood made no difference, the medical/industrial complex came up with saturated fat as a new reason. Chemical blood therapy is denegrated by this industry because it would replace all of those very expensive by-pass surgeries. Can't have that.

Just the statin market alone is now over $30 Billion. Medical science is FIRST about profits...NOT your health.

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 2:39:47 AM   
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Yeah, I take fishoil caps too and Lecithin to clear out the arteries.


Sir refers to soft drinks as "industrial degreasing agents" and "malted battery acid".  I see them more as "chelating agents".  What more do I need to keep my CV system healthy? 
 


Chelation is the correct therapy but our great medical/industrial complex does no research and will tell you it doesn't work...it doesn't pay. The federal govt. can't ban it, it too, just tries to convince you it doesn't work. Chelation therapy works and directly on the arties. I also take both as Lecithin taken just before eating breakfast only.

Note: My grandmother ate the fat off everybody's plate after her pot roast dinners. She never took or sought any therapy for her heart...arteries or had any problems. This resulted in her living to 94. Also, she was never more than about 130 lbs either.

To answer your question...exercise. This cleans out your blood and helps carry out uneeded's.

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 7:33:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Somebody send aravain a Sweating to the Oldies CD.  Mark like you I thought I was very healthy. I do think your DNA has a lot to do with it. I know a lot of so called overweight people who have great readings. Here my Dr is telling me to lose weight.  There is a generic for Lipitor that works great and cost only $4 here.

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 7:44:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantheart

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Yeah, I take fishoil caps too and Lecithin to clear out the arteries.


Sir refers to soft drinks as "industrial degreasing agents" and "malted battery acid".  I see them more as "chelating agents".  What more do I need to keep my CV system healthy? 
 


Chelation is the correct therapy but our great medical/industrial complex does no research and will tell you it doesn't work...it doesn't pay. The federal govt. can't ban it, it too, just tries to convince you it doesn't work. Chelation therapy works and directly on the arties. I also take both as Lecithin taken just before eating breakfast only.

Note: My grandmother ate the fat off everybody's plate after her pot roast dinners. She never took or sought any therapy for her heart...arteries or had any problems. This resulted in her living to 94. Also, she was never more than about 130 lbs either.

To answer your question...exercise. This cleans out your blood and helps carry out uneeded's.


Um....I was actually joking when I wrote this.  I have no idea if chelation works.  This is my attempt at justification to my Sir to keep drinking coke  

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 8:30:55 AM   
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and yet old timers from back in the day never seen a dr and will out live me.

Yes and the reason is that neither cholesteral or saturated fat in the blood has any effect on heart desease or stroke and particularly as it relates to clogged arteries.

There is not a single clinical trial that demonstrates that a high levels of cholesteral or saturated fat in the blood has any effect on your long term health.

In fact when studies showed that cholesteral in the blood made no difference, the medical/industrial complex came up with saturated fat as a new reason. Chemical blood therapy is denegrated by this industry because it would replace all of those very expensive by-pass surgeries. Can't have that.

Just the statin market alone is now over $30 Billion. Medical science is FIRST about profits...NOT your health.



do you have a link to this?

I buy real butter and whole milk.  I even eat eggs.   I guess I will die before midnight. lol.

they over perscribe stantins.

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 8:33:14 AM   
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If you are over 40....go to a Dr. at least once a year!...pahunk is correct about some meds but, that depends on YOUR body and how it reacts to the meds. I am in the Dr.s once every 6 months and I believe that if I hadn't started when I did I would have already had a stroke. My B/P is now in "normal" range daily but at one time I was at serious risk and I had NO IDEA!!!!....It took me actually getting so angry one time that I felt like I was going to explode and then my physical reaction(serious headaches) to find out just how serious and DEADLY B/P and cholesterol can be. I appear to be healthy, always have appeared to be, 5'9, slender, well defined physically and inside I had a time bomb....I am glad so many of you know and understand your numbers.



blood pressure ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSS a big deal.  THAT pill should be taken.   tho dont fall for an expensive pill if a cheaper one will do.

as part of my treatments-- I see a DR every 6 months.  the cost of my pills is staggering.  with everything cutting back I am trying to decide what I need and what is nice to have.

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 9:32:33 AM   
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If you are over 40....go to a Dr. at least once a year!...pahunk is correct about some meds but, that depends on YOUR body and how it reacts to the meds. I am in the Dr.s once every 6 months and I believe that if I hadn't started when I did I would have already had a stroke. My B/P is now in "normal" range daily but at one time I was at serious risk and I had NO IDEA!!!!....It took me actually getting so angry one time that I felt like I was going to explode and then my physical reaction(serious headaches) to find out just how serious and DEADLY B/P and cholesterol can be. I appear to be healthy, always have appeared to be, 5'9, slender, well defined physically and inside I had a time bomb....I am glad so many of you know and understand your numbers.



SilverMark, yeah, that anger stuff is REALLY not good!
I had an uncle like that.
It took him *three* heart attacks before he finally figured it out.
After that he was walking everyday 2-3 miles and doing deep breathing excercises instead of yelling and screaming at people.
Unfortunately it was too late for me.
After so many years of him yelling at me and being abusive I turned on him!
And I mean like a Mafia gangster from East Boston who didn't get his "vig" payment that week.
We never talked again.
Oh, the drug that they have me on is called "Rosuvastatin."

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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 1:51:45 PM   
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RE: Cholesterol, get it checked! - 1/28/2009 5:11:52 PM   
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