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redheadedmama -> Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:12:25 PM)
What does it all mean? Is there a difference between being a pet, being a sub and being a slave??????

GreedyTop -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:15:59 PM)
depends on the people involved.

CatdeMedici -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:16:00 PM)
It's all based on what you want--I have certain conotations for those terms, so I have a sub--not a pet and not a slave though I call him pet and I would hope he is a slave to My affection.

mc1234 -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:17:13 PM)
Labels mean different things to different people. In talks with doms, I'll be sure that our definitions jive or at least make sure that I understand what it is he means by each one. If you do a search, you'll find tons of reading on this, most favorite, debate. [:)]

SassySarijane -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:20:39 PM)
It's really about how you feel you identify and how you and the one(s) you're in a relationship with relate to and view the label. There is no one true way in this.

littlewonder -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:23:53 PM)
for me yes there is a difference but everyone seems to have their own definitions or ideas on what those terms mean. For some they all mean exactly the same thing. For me each one means something completely different. I am Master's slave. It means when I agreed to be with him I gave my right to consent over to him. I consented once and that's it. If I was his sub then I would still have that right to consent or not each and every time to everything. It would be a tit for tat kind of deal. If I was his pet then that's what I would be...think of a dog or a cat and how you treat it. That's what a pet is and at times that is what I am for him when he wishes me to be. Like I said though..not everyone agrees with this and that's fine. In the end it's what you and your partner agree to.

DesFIP -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 6:31:28 PM)
I'm his sub and I certainly don't have to give my consent each and every time. But how we work our individual relationship has evolved beyond the broadly held definitions commonly bandied over. At this point in time we appear to be just a happy vanilla couple since we think pretty much alike on most subjects and know what each other likes and dislikes. And like any other happy couple, we enjoy doing things that deepen the love we hold for each other and that strengthen the relationship. But at times I'm his pet, lying by him and being stroked absentmindedly, his sub teasing him, his slave doing things quietly to make his life easier, his lover, his best friend, his partner in crime et cetera.

T1981 -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 7:02:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP I'm his sub and I certainly don't have to give my consent each and every time. But how we work our individual relationship has evolved beyond the broadly held definitions commonly bandied over. At this point in time we appear to be just a happy vanilla couple since we think pretty much alike on most subjects and know what each other likes and dislikes. And like any other happy couple, we enjoy doing things that deepen the love we hold for each other and that strengthen the relationship. But at times I'm his pet, lying by him and being stroked absentmindedly, his sub teasing him, his slave doing things quietly to make his life easier, his lover, his best friend, his partner in crime et cetera. Again, I find myself quoting because someone else has said it better than I could have. That's where my husband and I stand as well, DesFIP.

DVsFox -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 7:05:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: redheadedmama What does it all mean? Is there a difference between being a pet, being a sub and being a slave?????? It all depends. I'm a male submissive. I'm a slave to my Owner. I'm also her pet. I'm all three in one. I honestly don't see a real difference between them. Except, that I see a slave as a type of submissive. DV's Fox

redheadedmama -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 7:29:23 PM)
Thanks to all of you for your input. I hope you are are having a wonderful Friday night.

hereyesruponyou -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 8:33:33 PM)
I have a pet because that is what i wanted. He is a submissive, but his service to me is less in what he can do for me than in just being there and adoring me. Anything above that is bonus. and i as his owner agree to train, keep and care for him as an important part of my life, just like my 4 legged pets. He's not perfect, sometimes disobediant even, but at least he doesn't pee on my stuff when he gets mad at me (like my westie does...sigh). And i can enjoy rubbing his belly (or a little lower) and listening to him whimper... To me a sub would be required to provide more service than my pet. A slave would subjugate all their needs and wants in place of mine. I don't think i would enjoy that really. But these are just my personal definitions. If there is one thing i have learned here it's that Everyone has different ideas and definitions about the same words and acts. So make sure you get that straight when you are negotiating a new relationship :)

IronBear -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 9:04:23 PM)
You name then as you see them and it becomes true for you but not necessarily for everyone..

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/2/2009 9:17:00 PM)
Also remember that one person can be all three, and more.

DerangedPleasure -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 12:27:51 AM)
Many words can mean many different things. I think the lesson here is COMMUNICATION! Make sure whoever you end up with knows your definition of these terms. It's always good to be on the same page.

GabrielleSlave -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 3:41:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross Also remember that one person can be all three, and more. Totally agree. i am Master's slave first and foremost, but Wwe do like puppy play and so then i am His pet. Then there are the times when Wwe have to be vanilla eg infront of Oour Ums, or other situations where Oour usual dynamic would be inappropriate. At those times i am more equal and therefore in my mind become more of a sub. Underneath i am always slave, but for a relationship to truly work, i feel there has to be some flexibility, otherwise it would not survive. gabrielle x

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 5:06:49 AM)
what's the difference - nothing ...just mere words i use to describe my bf. if i'm in a good mood, he's my pet however if i'm in a bad mood, he's sissy slut slaveboi (he enjoys being called the latter)

herpreciouspet -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 5:36:28 PM)
i love being Mistress' pet . ..She makes me feel protected and cherished, like a pet should be . ..and yes, i know better than to pee on her stuff

ResidentSadist -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 8:15:21 PM)
As defined by 30 years of understanding and debate I have come to believe in these parameters below. It is not a “One Way For All” definition but, like any term in the English language, it is a general base understanding. Like printers ink, the color “white” has many shades measured by their reflective properties and color temperature. The same is true for the terms you ask about however, “black” cannot be defined as “white” anymore than a “slave” is defined as a “submissive” no matter how ambiguous some people may tell you it is. I invite anyone to upgrade these with more universal terms and will stand corrected if wrong. D/s Domination and submission relationships are a partial power exchange and accepting dominance of one person over another. Mutually negotiated boundaries set the framework for many of the actions or rituals that look the same as M/s but, the motives behind them may be different. A Dominant is the person who takes the superior position in a negotiated control relationship. Dominants can be either sex: Doms or Dommes. A submissive takes the subordinate position in a D/s relationship. The degree of control is negotiated by agreement, they do not have to surrender all control. The rewards include the pleasures of service and/or control. Often, struggle or suffering is optional, hence the negotiation aspect. M/s Master or Mistress & slave relationships are based on TPE (total power exchange). The boundaries or framework are set by Master/Mistress alone. M/s relationships may bring many pleasures but the core of it is about filling the need to give or receive control, service or ownership. Filling those needs are the primary rewards. Also known as 24/7 TPE. A slave's Master or Mistress is a person having control or authority and symbolic ownership of a person that obeys them in a TPE. When referring to a "house" or "family" it means the head of a household who employs or holds a contract over another or others in their service. A slave, contrary to common belief, does not have to be a submissive or have a submissive personality. However, they are a subordinate that surrenders control in a TPE. Often a slave will struggle to do that which is not pleasurable. Suffering isn't optional.

Riesa -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 8:49:51 PM)
Everyone is different, Everyone has a different mind on everyday subjects, what one person sees as one thing, another sees differently. Everyone each to their own........i am currently deciding what I am, Want, and want to be, I cannot label myself as there is no label, as everyone is different, Probably not best time for my replys on an evening, or as it is A Morning, lol

trealeon -> RE: Pet, Sub, Slave (1/3/2009 10:36:39 PM)
As long as we have a dynamic we both love and enjoy, I don't have a preference as to what I call her. Every relationship has been different. Sometimes a girl will want to be called something specific because she feels it identifies her role in the best way, others want me to pick what the "title" for their role is because they want to please me by being whatever "title" I ascribe to them. But giving her a certain title didn't define the dynamic... we define the dynamic, I think the title is more arbitrary.

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