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Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 7:34:20 AM   
SimplyMichael


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Many here take great pains to point out that teaching is a two way street and that it is a myth that the dominant should be the font of all wisdom and the submissive the starry eyed pupil in awe of the "ancient wisdom" of their all knowing dominant.  As a celebration of that understanding, I thought I would share some things I have learned from my wonderful submissive partners, past and present.

Bossyshoebitch has taught me a great many things and has done much to enrich my life.  I have learned to enjoy bathroom humor because of the joy it brings her.  I have learned to lighten up and be silly, something I could once only do with children.  She has asked and cajoled me to flirt with others here and I have actually come to enjoy that on occasion.  Most important to me is she has taught me that I really can trust another with my heart.  Even when we were at our most bitter, she had the passwords to my profiles here, my email, and god knows what else.  In her past she has often been a vindictive bitch and yet never once did she do even the slightest thing to fuck with me.  That act alone is one of the bedrocks of the trust we share today.

I am seeing a rather wonderful woman locally who is teaching me cooking skills I didn't have and I am sure as we enjoy our journey there is far more I can learn from her.

My ex, who is now like a kinky sister to me, taught me oh so much in our years together.  Perhaps most important she freed me up to be creative.  She taught me the language to describe what my eye saw when I looked at my own as well as other's creations.  With the language came the ability to understand what I did or did not like and so I could finally improve things and make the next better than the last.  She taught me that I was an abusive man and she helped me transition away from that and taught me that if I ask for something my partner is more than likely willing to give me the hug, the kiss or the kind word I so deeply need.  She taught me to trust my insights into art and music in a way I had never done before.  She taught me both humility and pride in ways too complex to describe.

My first real submissive taught me much too.  I learned what it could be like to be with someone who you felt completely at home with and what a healthy relationship could feel like, even if those moments were as brief as a beautiful sunrise, they set me on the path to growth.  She taught me that I could have a woman's heart no matter who else desired her.  She taught me a sensuality and a sense of style and freedom I hadn't experienced before and have never let go of.  She in many ways set the standard of what I look for in a relationship.

My last vanilla partner who was not actually that vanilla was an amazing woman.  She lured me away from a life of dealing drugs, selling guns, blowing shit up, smuggling and god knows what else and showed me the joys of suburban living, something I have secretly longed for ever since.  A sense of stability, of bills paid early, of the joy of not giving a shit if a cop pulled you over because you had nothing to fear, not because things were well concealed but because there was nothing to conceal, no warrants to worry about.  She helped me grow up in so many ways and despite being hell on wheels also taught me how much one partner could spoil another, she was a born submissive, strong, independent, fiery, and very intelligent.

Each of these women helped me become a better man than I was before, I learned from them and in many ways still do.  In many cases I would even say I think I learned more from them than I they learned from me.  So they are truly not the lesser half of a whole but a primary ingredient in the magic of an uplifting and nurturing relationship.  So, what have you learned that you care to share?

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 7:51:09 AM   
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Good thread, SimplyMichael.

Fox tells me daily that I am sexy and a good dominant. In terms of skills he's helped me improve my bondage skills and increased my knowledge about fetishes and furries.

Faith taught me to have faith in myself and to enjoy and fully use a masochist with a solid service streak to him.

Treasure taught me to without my heart for a good long time and to never accept being anything other than priority #1 in my slaves' lives. That was negative learning you might say.

STT taught me the joys of owning a true knight and how to command his service from a place of respect

Peter taught me the importance of words.

There have been others, I'm sure that each taught me something.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 8:07:32 AM   
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The wise master always learns from his pupils -- Zen proverb.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 8:12:36 AM   
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Sir has told me that i have taught him a lot. He mentioned that i have helped him get past some of his own issues. Honestly, it feels good that he has and can continue to learn from me.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 8:54:14 AM   
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Amongst the many valuable things I've been taught:
 
*  How to recognize the aspirations that others have for themselves, and to incorporate those objectives into my own without feeling any "less" of a Dominant for doing so. 
 
*  How to celebrate achievement as a mutual accomplishment within the context of a power exchange relationship.
 
*  How to love openly, and unabashedly, without diminishing my Dominance one iota.
 
*  How to let go when it is right to do so, despite the fact that it hurts like hell.
 
John

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 9:44:07 AM   
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So many things have been learned... and I expect it to always be that way.  But just a few highlights..

Alandra had a huge impact on teaching me about inner strength of the person.  That ability to continue to take steps forward no matter what the moment seems like now.  She taught me a way of looking at the world is much more constructive and optimistic.  In many ways she opened my mind to look for the silver lining is more important than actually seeing it.  She taught me about love and how you can love deeply without insecurities and jealousy but still be vulnerable.  She opened my mind and heart to a poly-style because she was gave with her own love to me and did not own her love of me.

Kyra has only been in my life a few years now but just the same... I am learning.  The first thought is that kyra taught me that I can love cats (chuckles).  I never want or had cats in my life until she came along and now I have 8 in my house.  Because of Kyra, I have been challanged to learn more to communicate differently.  I have learned that my communication style needed to be more flexible and adaptative to the person I am communicating with.  I learned to be more considerate for my own health and making different choice because of it.  I learned to be gentler and more sensitive than I was in the past with others paritcularly with those close to me.


Just a few thoughts of what I have learned from my two girls.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 11:02:54 AM   
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Learning is definitely a 2 way street, I had some very generous advice regarding career, personal things, etc. from submissives and I have learned invaluable technical BDSM skills from them.

I think there is no shame in being taught and it is certainly nothing that makes you less dominant, the only thing that can be shameful if somebody doesn't want to learn...

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 1:57:13 PM   
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I've always felt that I could learn from others, no matter the position I am in.  Every class I've ever taught with my friend has resulted in me learning from him and from students of ours.

I've learned many things from the women I have been involved with.  I look at my ex-wife and her stint in the hospital last week with heart problems and see that what they taught me in a joint health care class between my chiropractic college and the U. of M. medical school is true...bitterness and vindictiveness and a general bad attitude CAN lead to physical ailments.  Her behavior and the result are a lesson from her to me.

tonya taught me that I could love someone and that, when done right, I could know that they loved me in an entirely separate relationship from the one they had elsewhere.  She taught me that the key was recognition of each relationship and defining what it is as well as what it means to you, therefore defining its place in your life in relationship to your other relationships.

marie louise taught me that not all Canadians are bad...and that in making someone responsible for their own actions, I was also making myself even more responsible for mine, even if it meant loss.  She taught me finally, after 30 years of being involved with women, what it felt like to be needed and yet, not make your life be about their need or your own.  she taught me what it felt like to be admired for things that others often take for granted and how to accept that admiration without becoming Mr. Arrogant.

jill taught me what how a dominant can put aside his wants and needs and behavioral characteristics and find something more inside that he may not be aware of so that he can really do what so many of us like to claim that we do...help the submissive find their way.  Though she dashed that in the end and lied to get that from me, it taught me things about myself that were positive.

There've been submissives I have dealt with in the last couple of years on here, as friends or in seeking someone, who've taught me things...some good, some bad.  But the learning continues to add to my knowledge...when I am smart enough to step back and incorporate it. 

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 2:48:13 PM   
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I think I'd bore the death out of everyone if I listed all of the things that I've learned from the boys over the years.  Not just the things that have been play related or in areas that some would call kink or lifestyle.  It's My belief that we learn from everyone around us, so of course I know that I have learned from those who have been close in My life.  I do hope I taught them things, too.  That nice idea of learning together still comes into play, even from a non spring chicken like Me.

One of the best things that clip has taught Me has to be a more positive person.   It wasn't something he set out to teach Me.   It's almost something that can't be helped.   The outlook he has is infectious.  A person can't help but to pick up on it from him.  It's like a natural talent he has to see the good in just about any situation, even the times he's been to war.  Often, he'll talk of how great the shopping was, rather than concentrate on the way that time effected him, or any of the sorrow.  Watching his face light up when he's excited is an instant mood improvement just being around him.

Thank you for the subject, Michael.  By the way, a word with you on the other side, if you could spare the time.


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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 3:29:30 PM   
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beth has taught me there is another person I could trust unconditionally to add to the one staring back at me while shaving my face.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 3:40:13 PM   
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See and Trusting Myself was the Last one I learned to Trust. But that is a Different story. I believed I could control him I never thought that I could trust him.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 6:41:48 PM   
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Well, so far, about 80% of what I know as a dominant comes from the girls I have been with. It helps with gaining experience to have someone to acquire that experience with who will tell you and show you how wrong your approachs or tactics are.

I tried gaining experience on my own, but then a girl told me that it was just "masturbation" (See another thing I learned!)

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/21/2008 8:28:59 PM   
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quote:

The wise master always learns from his pupils -- Zen proverb.


Coming in late, and not in the least wanting to derail a lovely thread...  but do you have source for this, CL?
It irks me to hear random pop-psych crap characterized as "zen."
(meaning no offense-- you may be merely the vector, not a progenitor)

and (edited to add) definitely meaning no offense to the spirit of the thread. It goes without saying that I learn from dominants (both partners and friends) and submissives too...   and in non-D/s life i also learn more from pupil-equivalents than i could ever hope to stumble across on my own.  I just don't call any of it zen.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 12:11:34 AM   
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quote:

pupils

a pupil is never above a teacher!



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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 12:12:36 AM   
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A teacher who can't learn from a pupil is not a teacher.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 12:27:39 AM   
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From 3 wonderful Doms I've met through the scene I've learned to see past my decades of crippling insecurities and my imperfections and see that I am a desirable woman whom any man would be proud to have by his side.

From my scene friends I've learned that the most important part of being a friend is being there when you are needed - it is always returned, with interest.

From my students at school I've learned that everyone enjoys the learning if the teacher teaches with joy.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 2:07:43 AM   
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You learn so much from playing with intelligent and imaginative people. I am very grateful to all the folks I have ever played with, as well as fun they were excellent teachers, an experienced subby can always teach you something you didn't know.
If you aren't going to interact fully with your playmates, you'd be better off with a rubber dolly.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 11:04:04 AM   
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I think the greatest thing a submissive has taught me is nothing that she taught me per se but that each submissive I must reitterate and re-evaluate my own thoughts, techniques, and styles to suit our dynamic and thus have to re-establish in my own mind if it is still right for me. I have had submissives teach me things but it is the forced refining of my own thoughts I am most grateful for. Each person and each situation helps to refine and pin point what I think and want with greater clarity.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 11/22/2008 11:26:47 AM   
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I have learnt from my Sir that it is safe to love another - that he won't hurt, degrade or humiliate me (non-consentual - lol).
He has taught me that i can have a relationship that is a partnership - not a power struggle.
He has taught me that home is a place to look forward to coming to every day - that work isn't the high point of the day.
He has taught me that it is ok to be crafty, that i don't have to commit my life to one craft form, and that doesn't make me immature.
He has taught me that just because we aren't paying attention to each other at any given time, that doesn't mean that we are ignoring each other.

basically, he has taught me that everything i learned from my marriage is wrong in the context of our relationship. He taught me that a man can love a woman unconditionally - and that a woman can love the same way.

the bdsm is a lovely addition to our relationship, one that i certainly wouldn't want to live without - but it isn't the only thing we have going for us. We are whole people, in a whole relationship, and i cherish that.

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RE: Teaching Your Dominant - 6/21/2010 9:06:14 AM   
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Considering the current state of threads, I thought I would use my uber domliness powers and bring this one back to life.

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