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RCdc -> Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:16:22 AM)

So I am arty, not practical.[:D]
We have a door - that keeps sticking.  It is totally out of line and will not shut.  It simply jams.  The alignment is out, but the is another door adjacent to it that is perfectly fine and closes no problem - so it isn't 'shifting'.  It isn;t swollen.  It isn't damaged.  Would sorting/tightening out the hinges assist?  Or should I consider something more major?
 
the.dark.




MadAxeman -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:20:24 AM)

I would move house.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:21:46 AM)

How badly does it miss?  Top, bottom or both?  interior or exterior?




RCdc -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:24:36 AM)

It's an option.[:D]
 
the.dark.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:24:54 AM)

With a grain of salt, and being election day, have you tried sitting down and negotiating with it?




RCdc -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:25:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

How badly does it miss?  Top, bottom or both?  interior or exterior?


Top and side(Mostly handle side when you attempt to close it).  Interior.
 
the.dark.




RCdc -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:27:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

With a grain of salt, and being election day, have you tried sitting down and negotiating with it?


[:D] - I am guessing it's a bit late for that.
the.dark.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:31:41 AM)

try tightening the bottom hinge, if that doesn't help, then remove both hinges, and chisel out a very little bit of the area where the bottom hinge plate sits. this may take a couple of tries to get it right, or, put a bit of a shim behind the top hinge plate.  that should change the door's angle. 




RCdc -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:34:14 AM)

Thanks.  It does look as though it's the angle that is the problem. It doesn;t look as though it is sitting right.  I will try the hinges.  I didn't want to start shaving the wood if it's a positioning thing.
 
the.dark.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:34:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

quote:

ORIGINAL: atursvcMaam

With a grain of salt, and being election day, have you tried sitting down and negotiating with it?


[:D] - I am guessing it's a bit late for that.
the.dark.

 
Talk sweetly to it, and promise it things you won't do.  Or, if you can live without the door, a drape across the doorway may work equally as well.




UmbraDomina -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:36:26 AM)

Take the door down, use a level on the frame, and then the door, to find out where the issue is. You may have to shave/plane the door so it fits correctly. I would how ever try tighting the hinges first, just becouse it is the easiest.
hope it helps, if not you could try spanking the door untill it behaves....lol




MadAxeman -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:38:37 AM)

Or shaving the house.




Dnomyar -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:39:17 AM)

Take a tape and see if the frame is in square. Do the same with the door. If they both are then the door has expanded for some reason.




atursvcMaam -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:41:07 AM)

Is the adjacent door interchangeable with this one? if so, try just switching doors, and see which one works.  if the offending door hangs up in both places, then the hinge positioning or door size might need to be addressed.




cjan -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 5:42:51 AM)

That's what you get for hanging from the door. Next time, stick to the St Andrews cross.




pahunkboy -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 6:27:36 AM)

WD40.    there are times a warped door is better tho.  I removed all doors here so as to get approved for the mortgage.  [it was easier then scraping off lead based paint by the deadline]

so now to put them back up?  arghhhhhhhhhhhh!   I managed 1/2.  I went wiht longer screws which wont be able to get even longer next time.

if the door is uneven,  how is the floor?  the wall ?  the entire room could be out of square.  maybe you can plan the edege enough that it fits.




RCdc -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 6:40:42 AM)

Other door isn't interchangable - but it is on the same wall and sits absolutely fine.
Yeah cjan - no more hanging.[:D]
No PA - the floor is even according to the spirit level on my tripod.
 
It could be expansion ray - I will look into that after I check out the hinges.
 
Thanks to all.
 
the.dark.




sub4hire -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 7:22:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Take a tape and see if the frame is in square. Do the same with the door. If they both are then the door has expanded for some reason.


Why not a square? 




pahunkboy -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 7:29:44 AM)

Dar,  try not to take this the wrong way, appealing pic.  Good job!  :-)




HunterS -> RE: Question for practical types. (11/4/2008 8:04:40 AM)

Open the door and take by the knobs and gently lift it up and down.  If there is no play then tightning the hinges will do no good.
Check the hinges where they are mortised into the frame and the side of the door.  If they are flush then recutting the mortise is a waste of time.
Check the frame and door for squareness with both square and level.  If the frame is out of square prise the moulding off and shim the frame to bring it to square.  If the door is out of square use a plane to bring it to square.

H. 




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