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Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 1:28:35 PM   
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http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1

It's fascinating and scathing. (and mostly backed up by John McCain's own published words)

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 1:35:01 PM   
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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 1:37:50 PM   
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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 2:33:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why? Where are you going to, John?"
"Oh, I'm going to Rio."
"What the hell are you going to Rio for?"
McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.
"I got a better chance of getting laid."

Give me a break!...Maybe the girls don't get this but it sounds like a guy joke to me.  Forget about the fact that it probably is easier to get laid in Rio (never been, unfortunately) but does anyone not on drugs really think McCain had to go to Rio to get laid...if that's what he wanted?  Actually..this is too silly to even discuss.  If you want to read about a bad actor, a guy who is not black, white, brown, yellow or red, but a guy who changes color based on who he is speaking too, than read about the elusive Mr. Obama, whose ass kissers keep saying was "only eight" when Bill Ayeres was blowing up buildings and killing innocent people...but they neglect to say he was a Harvard grad, a member of the Bar when Ayers put him on the board of his foundation...AS CHAIRMAN....and how Barack funneled grant money from his State's treasury to this foundation set up for "education" (guess what Ayeres agenda is in education).  Oh..and the kick-off fund raiser was in Mr. Ayers home....just casual friends...my ass.  We haven't even discussed Obama's work with ACORN as attorney to force banks in Illinois to write "sub-prime loans" (where have I heard those words sub-prime?) in the early 1990's, and trained "Community Activist" staff at ACORN. 

Finally, starting with the broadside from Sarah Palin, the media won't be able to hide the facts on this radical leftist disciple, his mentor being Sol Olinsky.  I do agree with the media that Barack is not a muslim..he is a marxist! 

This campaign is FINALLY warming up and it's gonna be an interesting October..full of "distractions, falsehoods, dirty politics, personal attacks,  innuendo,  and whatever else Obama will claim.  Where is Bruce Springsteen, I mean Obama appearing next?

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 2:35:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excellent post, Hejira. McInsane is a psychopath who shouldn't be allowed to run a craps game, let alone a nation. What a scumbag. Another runt with a Daddy complex who has never worked outside of government a day in his spoiled life.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 2:49:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a fantastic article in the last Newsweek about both candidates (the two that are actually running for president).

It goes back through their past, who influenced them and hightlights alot of the strengths and weaknesses. Explains alot about how they think, especially with regard to foreign policy. It only emphasized things I already knew, that shaped my decision.

I honestly do not think McCain is a bad person and feel that, at another time in history, he would have been a fine president. I just do not feel he is the best candidate for today. Especially in foreign relations.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 5:09:17 PM   
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There is a fantastic article in the last Newsweek about both candidates (the two that are actually running for president).

It goes back through their past, who influenced them and hightlights alot of the strengths and weaknesses. Explains alot about how they think, especially with regard to foreign policy. It only emphasized things I already knew, that shaped my decision.

I honestly do not think McCain is a bad person and feel that, at another time in history, he would have been a fine president. I just do not feel he is the best candidate for today. Especially in foreign relations.


I look at McCain and his experience versus Obama with no experience, and can't come to the same conclusion.  If Joe Biden was at the top of the ticket, or Hillary was at the top with Biden as VP, I might actually vote for them..or at least have to think before I entered the booth.  I wish I had that kind of choice...voting for the best!
However, reality is such that we have a clear choice between McCain, who I have a lot of issues with but who will not destroy the country...and Obama, who has done nothing but run for the Presidency basically since he got to Washington.  Seriously, you can't go by the platforms, or speeches, or "words"....can anyone really remember the promises made in so many past election cycles?  We are voting for the MAN...is this the man that has proven with his life that he can run the United States of America?  His associations are important..and we will be hearing more of that in the month of Octobe.  What kind of man is it we are voting for?  What are his core principles? Do these principles of government coincide with mine?   In what direction does he want to take the country? Do I really know this man or am I just impressed with his fantastic charisma? ...(obviously not McCain).   We each have an important personal decision to make in less than a month's time. 

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 5:27:02 PM   
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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 5:28:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		      About what I'd expect from Rolling Stone.  Shame Thompson is dead and shot out of a cannon.  There might have been a memeorable turn of phrase.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 5:47:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is so interesting to read an unorthodox view of McCain. I fear that once a man has gone through war, his record becomes somehow unquestionable (unless he is Kerry, in which case he becomes fodder for slander and lies). From the Rolling Stone article you linked:

"Few politicians have so actively, or successfully, crafted their own myth of greatness. In Mc- Cain's version of his life, he is a prodigal son who, steeled by his brutal internment in Vietnam, learned to put "country first." Remade by the Keating Five scandal that nearly wrecked his career, the story goes, McCain re-emerged as a "reformer" and a "maverick," righteously eschewing anything that "might even tangentially be construed as a less than proper use of my office."

It's a myth McCain has cultivated throughout his decades in Washington. But during the course of this year's campaign, the mask has slipped. "Let's face it," says Larry Wilkerson, a retired Army colonel who served as chief of staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell. "John McCain made his reputation on the fact that he doesn't bend his principles for politics. That's just not true."

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 6:35:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why does the article say it was posted on October 16, 2008?

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 6:39:50 PM   
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Why does the article say it was posted on October 16, 2008?


Jesus. Now they're lying too! Who the hell can we trust?

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 6:40:18 PM   
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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 6:42:13 PM   
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Why does the article say it was posted on October 16, 2008?



I was wondering the same thing. All I can think of is that that's the date on the hard copy out on newsstands (you know how magazines are always released before the date on the cover?)
 
The article was emailed to me today.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 6:44:51 PM   
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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 7:03:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		       R.S. is notorious for missing deadlines then coming out with a double-issue or some such nonsense.  The date is a reflection of how they try to keep people from noticing.  You'd think they'd have achieved some measure of organizational discipline after 40-odd years.  Was it the 92 election when their 'heavy' piece on Bill Clinton said he would legalize pot?

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 7:13:01 PM   
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It could happen.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 7:14:40 PM   
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Oh gee, and here I thought it was something much more exciting like we'd somehow slipped through a hole in the space-time continuum and read an article from the future. 



       Well, there are certainly plenty of reality and credibility holes in the R.S. universe...

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 7:26:18 PM   
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Oh gee, and here I thought it was something much more exciting like we'd somehow slipped through a hole in the space-time continuum and read an article from the future. 

It could happen.



If it ever does, I hope it links me straight to the winning lottery numbers.

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RE: Rolling Stone Article on the "True McCain" - 10/5/2008 7:34:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have read many stories about John McCain, that did not
paint him in a positive light.
I am glad the article was written and maybe a few people
might look a little closer at John McCain.
 
McCain is certainly living in a glass house, maybe he need not
throw stones at Obama.

People need to take a peek at another article in this issue called "MadDogPalin"!
It is great!

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