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DavanKael -> RE: Sacredness in Ds (9/30/2008 5:00:02 PM)
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Gonna start out by saying I love this thread! I started out reading the message boards regularly recently related to an unwanted evolution in a relationship I hold as sacred. I feel gifted to have been privy to the thoughts and feelings of so many others and having the opportunity to share my own. Before I go on with somemore thoughts of my own, I want to highlight a couple of things other folks have said that particularly resonate for/with me: Calla Firestorm said: I think that it may be relevant to the topic at hand, in addition to the definitions offered above, to consider some additional definitions of "sacred" beyond the ones limited to being bound to a religion or diety. 3. Designated or exalted by a divine sanction; possessing the highest title to obedience, honor, reverence, or veneration; entitled to extreme reverence; venerable. 4. Hence, not to be profaned or violated; inviolable. 5. Consecrated; dedicated; devoted; -- with to. 6. Solemnly devoted These definitions do not require a deity or religion -- merely consideration and the ensuing dedication and commitment. Aslanemperor said: When I saw this, I immediately thought that I might have found someone who thinks of things like I do. If you're looking for sacredness in BDSM, I ask you to look at a good submissive. She is the most special of girls (or sometimes boys). She will give you all of herself, and pour her heart and soul into you whenever you want it. She will obey you and serve you and the more she serves and the more she pleases you, the happier she will be. I have said this to many people: I think that there is no greater show of absolute love then that of a submissive to her Dom. To me, this is sacred, and I charish any sub I ever have as the most prized posession I have. Okay, a few more me-thoughts thrown in: Calla Fairestorm: Thank you for the definitions, they speak well to that which I feel/know. Aslanemperor: Beautiful expressions. I would propose that one could also take every instance where you cited sub and insert Dom (And vice versa). Imo, one without the other can not be as elevated as the two together. I don't necessarily (dis-)believe in a 'higher power'. I am absolutely sure that there are things bigger than I; the Universe, as an example. That does not demean my place in it; I am a part of it. Some people may call what I call the Universe God. Some may think my saying I am god, you are god, all is god a blasphemy; to me, it is a truism; we are all part of the same thing that is bigger than ourselves and we are all interconnected (Not just people, everything). All things are sacred. If I choose to honor you, I choose to honor all. If I choose to harm you, I choose to harm all, I chooseto harm myself. Sex, a part of which is D/s, has always struck me as special, particularly sacred. The potential for that exquisite alchemy that is greater than the sum of its parts, for me, seems most potentially manifest in this way. This isn't a thought that appeared for meone day though it's developed moreso across time; from the moment I was aware of sex and understood what it was, I knew it for something precious. Magical. Sex is the place in which I have, on occasion and most strongly, felt the boundaries between myself and another melt, the twining of energies together, merging into something greater than the sum of its parts; achieving greater union with each other, with all, with the Universe. I also see in myself the desire to walk a spiritual path with a male partner/husband as my guide. My beliefs are solid, they don't need shoring up but the shared communion of thought, of idea of sacredness strikes me as part of sacred dominion/submission; balance between us. Davan
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