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How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 2:25:45 PM

MistressNew

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Obviously, I am an Obama supporter. But I'd like to know, especially from those of you voting McCain, where the differences are between the two men.

As far as I can tell, they are the same on economic issues, energy policy, social issues, taxes, foreign policy, supreme court appointments, and campaigning. Could someone please explain, with specifics, where the two men are different?

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 3:27:15 PM

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I am also voting for Obama.
I can still tell you how McCain is different than Bush, for me.

I never trusted Bush, from day 1, there is something about his eyes.
I never could stand to look at him for more than a few minutes.
I always asked myself, "Why in the world would people vote for this man?"
He looks a little shaky.

I can actually look at McCain, and I can listen to him.
He has kind eyes and seems like a kind man.
I am still voting for Obama.

I don't think it is fair to even put McCain in the same sentence as President Bush.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 3:29:29 PM

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quote:

in the world would people vote for this man?"
He looks a little shaky.

I can actually look at McCain, and I can listen to him.
He has kind eyes and seems like a kind man.
I am still voting for Obama.

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

I am also voting for Obama.
I can still tell you how McCain is different than Bush, for me.

I never trusted Bush, from day 1, there is something about his eyes.
I never could stand to look at him for more than a few minutes.
I always asked myself, "Why in the world would people vote for this man?"
He looks a little shaky.

I can actually look at McCain, and I can listen to him.
He has kind eyes and seems like a kind man.
I am still voting for Obama.

I don't think it is fair to even put McCain in the same sentence as President Bush.

While that's totally fine, I was more wondering what specific policies will be different. Personal feelings are so subjective. I want some objective differences.

But thanks for the thoughtful reply.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 4:33:59 PM

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For the second time, McCain has a record of crossing party lines, and working with Democrats to get legislation approved.

Thats something neither Hussein nor Biden can claim.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 4:48:30 PM

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 4:51:37 PM

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Earmarks, ethics reform, campaign finance reform, corporate welfare.

Just a quick few off the top of my head.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 5:06:34 PM

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I'm a supporter of Senator Clinton, who is still undecided.

As stated earlier, Senator McCain has a record of crossing party lines to work with the other party in order to get things done. He has sponsored legislation with Democrats. President Bush ran, claiming he had done this in Texas, which was not accurate.

Senator McCain is less of a spender than President Bush, but then again, everyone is less of a spender than President Bush. President Bush also campaigned as a spent thrift from Texas, which was also untrue.

Senator McCain has a record of attempting to decrease the size of big government, as does his running mate. President Bush also made that claim, which yet again was untrue, and continues to be untrue.

Senator McCain in two debates and several speeches has indicated that the use of torture was unacceptable.

Senator McCain seems to be more in favor of domestic drilling, than President Bush.

Senator McCain has clearly articulated that the war in Iraq was poorly handled, and more emphasis shoudl have been placed on listening to our field commanders. President Bush has never backed down an inch. In his mind, everything they did was correct, even when it clearly wasn't.

Senator McCain has long been in favor of campaign reform. President Bush is not.

There are more, obviously. In spite of recent voting records, there are many more differences than similarities, between the two.

Senator McCain is still unlikely to get my vote, but I do see him as a viable option, and will not worry a bit if he is elected.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 5:37:48 PM

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There is no difference, they are both politicians.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 5:53:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNew

Obviously, I am an Obama supporter. But I'd like to know, especially from those of you voting McCain, where the differences are between the two men.

As far as I can tell, they are the same on economic issues, energy policy, social issues, taxes, foreign policy, supreme court appointments, and campaigning. Could someone please explain, with specifics, where the two men are different?

It's really quite simple:

One is married to Laura Bush.

The other isn't.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/5/2008 7:00:06 PM

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It's really difficult to tell, isn't it? And NOT because of some partisan, knee-jerk reaction, either. No, the difficulty in finding the differences (and yes, I believe they exist!) lies with his GOP handlers. It's the same thing that happened to Bob Dole when he was running... A nice enough guy, but the party has put the little mind-control slug on the back of his neck, so to speak. Does the John McCain of 2000 seem to jibe with the one we're seeing today? I began to wonder who was manipulating him when he began cozying up with religious nazis like Falwell. Since then, the "straight talk express" seems to have gotten lost on the "Republican spin turnpike."

We saw/heard a little bit of John McCain peeking out during his speech at the convention... Almost like the scene in the Exorcist, where the girl bared her stomach, and we saw the words "Help ME" appear on her skin. If John McCain were to actually make an appearance sometime during this election cycle, I might have to actually consider him.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 3:45:34 AM

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The immediate differences that spring to mind are that McCain is far more likely to die in office than Bush was, that McCain, unlike Bush, actually seems to have done something with his military career except play dress up and forget which bases he was stationed at, and that McCain is an adulterer (which goes beautifully with his Christian views and the Ten Commandments) wheras Bush is a reformed drunk.

Also, McCain had actually left the US prior to running for President, even if it was to bomb the hell out of civilians is a foreign land (actually, the propensity for condoning this is something they have in common), whereas Bush probably had trouble spelling 'passport' let alone applying for one.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 4:03:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

For the second time, McCain has a record of crossing party lines, and working with Democrats to get legislation approved.

Thats something neither Hussein nor Biden can claim.

I think she asked for specifics, yet you continue with generalities.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 4:40:32 AM

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It's really difficult to tell, isn't it?

I can tell the difference easily.

The McCain call for "serving a cause greater than yourself" is a definite departure from Bush.

McCain is far more the political pragmatist where as Bush is far more ideological--basically, McCain is more like George H.W. Bush than George W. Bush.

McCain admits his mistakes. Bush's refusal to back down translates into not acknowledging mistake.

There is a difference, and it doesn't take much effort to see it.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 4:44:01 AM

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Well a die hard republican told me yesterday that listening/watching McCain speak was like watching some cartoon character named Chumly......whoever that is.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 4:58:11 AM

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Aside from the political issues and there are differences there, McCain comes across less smug, more sincere in his efforts and a lot less cocky. I like McCain as a person, I never liked Georgie Boy...
I think it may come from back in 2000 when McCain took on Bush in the primaries, if he does win(and I hope not) I hope that is the McCain we get as President. Instead of "Read My lips" like George H. W. Bush it would be a bit more like Kiss my ass! from the McCain I saw in 2000. That is the McCain I could live with as President. (still wouldn't like it!)

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 6:32:04 AM

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McCain2000 was pretty awesome, few bugs...very user friendly.

McCain Vista...lots of spyware issues....and seems like it let go alot of the great functions i once liked so much about McCain 2000. Difficult to figure out the settings, and configuration.

More's the pity.......

edited to add two differences:
McCain is spelled M-C-C-A-I-N, and Bush is spelled B-U-S-H.
and i do think that McCain, unlike Bush, is indeed smarter than a 5th grader.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 7:16:15 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNew

Obviously, I am an Obama supporter. But I'd like to know, especially from those of you voting McCain, where the differences are between the two men.
As far as I can tell, they are the same on economic issues, energy policy, social issues, taxes, foreign policy, supreme court appointments, and campaigning. Could someone please explain, with specifics, where the two men are different?

Ma'am..

McCain and Bush are two men are as similar as Obama is to Kennedy in terms of philsophy, if not experience.
I was a McCain supporter before Sarah Palin entered the picture but only because I felt he was the lesser of two evils by a ton. Sarah gave me a ticket I could vote for!
The country could survive as I know it under a McCain administration. I am not sure it could with a
Obama President , and Reid and Pelosi running a potential fillibuster proof Congress. And it goes beyond
liberalism which has its own faults...it rests on Obama's socialist principles.

As far as McCain, I can only hope that once he is sworn in this January he will continue to listen to his
conservative base; end the invasion of the country across our southern border, at least work to end the
waste in government, bring a trust back to a government by its people that is so lacking these days with
a 28% rating for Bush and Congress at an historically low 18%. These numbers are even more interesting when you
read that historians say that only 33% of the people on the colonies were against the English King, and
look what they did about it!

The key here is not that McCain and Bush are in agreement on energy, economics, the war, etc...but that
McCain is NOT in agreement with Obama's defeatist "get out of Iraq policy over the past two years, Robin
Hood democrat economics of robbing from the rich to give to the poor. Importantly,the background of the
man himself is almost like a hollywood character with no record of accomplishment other than his own
career, a socialist philosophy of "Big Brother"government, and the destruction of the outstanding American
healthcare system in favor, of all things, a government progam of universal health. Remember, 85% of
americans DO have private healthcare and are hapy with it..and Obama wants to change our lifestyle for the
benefit of the lower 15%! Pandering sounds good in a soundbite..but if implemented, would bankrupt the country
both monetarily and culture.
It's amazing to me that the Chris Matthews and Keith Ubarman and the clowns over at CNN keep nitpicking on the fact that we have to know more about Sarah Palin who has been thrust into the limelight for a week when Obama has been getting so much unvetting coverage for two years and most americans still have no clue about what makes this radical tick. As an Obama supporter, what do you know of this man, his background, his
politics, his principles, his previous speeches against the military, his plan to organize young people into a brown
shirt type organization of "organizers"...etc...??

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 7:42:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

McCain is spelled M-C-C-A-I-N, and Bush is spelled B-U-S-H.
and i do think that McCain, unlike Bush, is indeed smarter than a 5th grader.

Q: Why did they call him 'W'?

A: So he could spell it.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 7:46:53 AM

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I cannot look at him or listen to him because he is running as a converative, but he is liberal.
The one I really don't like is the VP.

Obama inspires me to try.
That is what we need. Inspiration.

Regards, MissSCD

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ORIGINAL: MistressNew

quote:

in the world would people vote for this man?"
He looks a little shaky.

I can actually look at McCain, and I can listen to him.
He has kind eyes and seems like a kind man.
I am still voting for Obama.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I am also voting for Obama.
I can still tell you how McCain is different than Bush, for me.

I never trusted Bush, from day 1, there is something about his eyes.
I never could stand to look at him for more than a few minutes.
I always asked myself, "Why in the world would people vote for this man?"
He looks a little shaky.

I can actually look at McCain, and I can listen to him.
He has kind eyes and seems like a kind man.
I am still voting for Obama.

I don't think it is fair to even put McCain in the same sentence as President Bush.

While that's totally fine, I was more wondering what specific policies will be different. Personal feelings are so subjective. I want some objective differences.

But thanks for the thoughtful reply.

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RE: How is McCain different from Bush - 9/6/2008 7:49:01 AM

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Yes, it is difficult to tell because both Presidential candidates are really liberals.

If I was conservative, I would plan on hiding for the next four years.

grins..

SCD

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quote:

It's really difficult to tell, isn't it?

I can tell the difference easily.

The McCain call for "serving a cause greater than yourself" is a definite departure from Bush.

McCain is far more the political pragmatist where as Bush is far more ideological--basically, McCain is more like George H.W. Bush than George W. Bush.

McCain admits his mistakes. Bush's refusal to back down translates into not acknowledging mistake.

There is a difference, and it doesn't take much effort to see it.

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