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Prinsexx -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 12:50:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Bstardsbitch

Ok, I can understand that, but that doesn't explain when you are questioned about using other peoples words and passing them off as your own, why you don't admit it, instead of deflecting the issue.
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But had i said i had used other peoples' words as mine own?
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups....which aren't my words but i forget whose they are.
You don't know me and that i have spent a great deal of time this year working one to one with students with learning differences helping them to undertsand Freddie. which is why i call him the f word as one student has to have a mnemonic to know how to spell his name.
If you really think the prupose of my post was to quote the Wiki than might i suggest you really don't know me.
But as i said assumption is the mother of all fucks ups and that was either Captain Beefheart or Zappa but no doubt someone will Wiki that and let me know.
Don't look into the abyss of the forum for too long........





Prinsexx -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 12:52:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx


If you actually read it you would see that it wasn't...........well if you also count the words and do a mathematical calculation you might find that 20% of it was in fact mine. In my experience the most significant part of it....the point i was trying to make was mine. But who needs to defend oneself anyway? The point you are making about when one looks into the Wiki about Freddie is?


One wasn't looking into Wiki about Nietzsche. One recognized that the words you posted were not at all the writing style one is accustomed to seeing in your posts, and one (correctly) suspected you had used the words from Wiki.

So I would suggest one could either claim credit for writing the Wiki article OR be accountable for plagiarizing.

Off topic.




Prinsexx -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 12:54:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

If one lies to oneself for long enough, it becomes second nature to lie to everyone else as well.

And your source of this insight is?




NuevaVida -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 12:56:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx


If you actually read it you would see that it wasn't...........well if you also count the words and do a mathematical calculation you might find that 20% of it was in fact mine. In my experience the most significant part of it....the point i was trying to make was mine. But who needs to defend oneself anyway? The point you are making about when one looks into the Wiki about Freddie is?


One wasn't looking into Wiki about Nietzsche. One recognized that the words you posted were not at all the writing style one is accustomed to seeing in your posts, and one (correctly) suspected you had used the words from Wiki.

So I would suggest one could either claim credit for writing the Wiki article OR be accountable for plagiarizing.

Off topic.



Negative. A response to your remarks. One suggests to keep your remarks on topic if you do not wish responses to be in kind.




Prinsexx -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 1:14:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida


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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx


If you actually read it you would see that it wasn't...........well if you also count the words and do a mathematical calculation you might find that 20% of it was in fact mine. In my experience the most significant part of it....the point i was trying to make was mine. But who needs to defend oneself anyway? The point you are making about when one looks into the Wiki about Freddie is?


One wasn't looking into Wiki about Nietzsche. One recognized that the words you posted were not at all the writing style one is accustomed to seeing in your posts, and one (correctly) suspected you had used the words from Wiki.

So I would suggest one could either claim credit for writing the Wiki article OR be accountable for plagiarizing.

Off topic.



Negative. A response to your remarks. One suggests to keep your remarks on topic if you do not wish responses to be in kind.

I actually am not in a dynamic with a forum post, or in contractual agreement with you. I am not expecting any sort of response....expectation is like an assumption....more like a presumption.
If you want me to reply specifically to you in a certain style because it upsets you when i do not do so then you could ask and more likely than not i would be able to do so.
Onvce you go into opposition with another poster here like this, in my humble opinion, there's really no way out of it is there? Ir's ike constantly having to stand on a higher chair, then the table top, then the wardrobe, then the roof to try to steal the moral highground.
Axctually i really don't care if i am right or wrong because i just don' thnk like that. But if it makes you feel better to feel right here then yes; youknow what. You absolutely are. Right about me. Right about Freddie.
But there's a point at which trying to prove oneself right just becomes a futile exercise. referring back to Freddie; I think this drove him crazy in the end. He got, in my humble opinion, to the crux of the matter, that when one is trying to 'prove' the rightness of intangibles there comes a point of futility. That point of futility we all have to face as both internal and external realities. What we see in others we will all come to see as merely reflections of ourselves.
My words.
And i'm nt trying to steal anything or claim the higher ground either.





NuevaVida -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 1:20:26 PM)

Dear, I am not upset, nor do I give a damn about being right, nor do I care if you post to me or not, or how you post to me or not. I merely pointed out the link you plagiarized from and responded to some silly passive-aggressive remarks. And now I am done, as one finds it pointless to reason with one who is unreasonable.




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Looking into the abyss (8/13/2008 1:33:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

......Doesn't reflect any of my BDSM experiences. It would be nice if you could provide the whole and exact quote.

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ......

Anyways...

Nietzsche is talking about how men who become obsessed and zealous over a righteous cause can do incredible evils in the name of that cause, thus becoming the thing they sought to destroy or defeat under the blinding notion of righteousness.

How this lesson on life is applicable to spanking your partner to achieve an erection is beyond me. .....


Hello Mad Rabbit,
I hope you'll forgive my snipping out the parts of your post - for the sake of brevity - that I wanted to respond to.

For many, BDSM, Authority Exchange, etc. is more than merely spanking someone to get an erection.  Now, I understand that you were responding with your own experience, and I respect that.  I simply felt compelled to toss out that little disclaimer before going on to say the following.

Keeping in context with the spirit of the quote by Nietzsche, I can see how fitting it is to any situation where zealous passion might rule. 

What springs immediately to mind as an example:  Men and women who become obsessed with an authority dynamic to the detriment of others and/or themselves (we have all heard, seen, or read of such circumstances.)

I could elaborate further on the references to how one can easily become the monster one fights but pfft....all I wanted to do was offer some insight as to how the quote could have some valid bearing on WIITWD.







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