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elleelisa -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 11:27:56 AM)

I know my post was sort of vague with the details, but I'll answer as best I can to some of these responses... Thanks to ALL of you for your input. The comment, "I know the answer but I'm just trying to find a way to justify what I want," is only partly true.  I have this tendency to over-analyze my over-analysis, which leaves my head spinning and clouds my inntuition.

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella 
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ORIGINAL: elleelisa

I want to get to know him first and be comfortable before getting into the sex-talk/ BDSM stuff, but we already got into it after 10 min. on the telephone.



I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that. If you want to get to know someone first before TALKING about sex, why did you screw him right away the first time around? It's ok to do it but it's not ok to talk about it?? Ay, yi yi!

Now that you are talking again, tell him that you were upset, and why. Then, talk about sex and your expectations. About the bit about when to obey, be yourself not who you think this stranger wants you to be. And don't ever, ever, EVER, have sex with someone (a stranger) again, just because you want to be pleasing.



That last sentence hit home because... I think that's what I did.  I know that comes off as RIDICULOUSLY hypocritical and silly.  I never intended on "playing" with him on the first date, but it just sort of happened.  I don't think I actually enjoyed it at the time, and right after left I actually said out loud in the car, "What was that?" and then I literally started singing "Moments in the Woods,"  Sondheim-style.  I felt like I was almost not in control of it (lame-- I know, I know).  I've grown a little wiser since that experience though and have changed a few of my "no-nos"  one being that I will not drive to meet a guy again, period.  Second date?  Sure.  First date?  No.  He actually asked me to drive down there during yesterday's conversation to "spend the day with him" and I told him that I wouldn't drive down.

After reading all of these great responses, I  know that this isn't the right situation for me and I need to just grow a pair and tell the guy.  On top of the red-flags and the fact that I don't think I even have time for a relationship or am ready, he lives 75 miles away and logistically I can't date someone that far anyway... I really don't have weekends, ha. 

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Sheez, one week isn't very long. Do you have any idea what was going on in his life during that one week? Was he out of town on business?
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ORIGINAL: leadership527


It was actually during the fires last year and he lives close to them, so that was his excuse.  Even so, in today's day and age, I don't think there is ANY reason why you shouldn't be able to call someone during a week's time.  All it would have taken was a 30 sec. conversation in which he could have said, "Hey, I can't really talk now but I just wanted to tell you that I'm thinking about you and that I will call you at the end of the week."  The fact that he didn't do this in my young opinion says WONDERS and well, a small red-flag will only get bigger.  In terms of me calling him, I think that since I drove down to visit him, the least he could do is call me to see if I got home safely, etc...  I didn't think it felt right to call him.

Bottom Line:
I think when the right man comes along in the right situation, I'll know and there won't be any need to gather advice from a forum, hehe.  If something doesn't feel right, it usually isn't right, and I have pretty good instincts.  Do I listen to them?  No, and I think I need to work on this along with loving myself and demanding that others respect me and my wishes.  With that said, thank you all for your input.

-Danielle <3









MistressSybella -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 11:37:31 AM)

You come across in a way that makes me want to protect you, danielle. The protective streak in me is glowing red and ready to punch this guy out for taking advantage of you. As a dominant, he should have looked out for your best interest. However, it's not all his fault. You have to be careful not to put yourself in situations where you have trouble saying no. So believe me when I say that I am delighted by your last message, the wisdom you are showing now.

I hope you find a decent owner quick, 'cause you need one! *wink*




KatyLied -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 11:42:33 AM)

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What does it "mean" when: you drove 125 miles total to meet a guy for a first date, ended up having sex and then he waited a week to call (I am a sub and he's a Dom btw).


He got what he wanted and is probably looking elsewhere.  It has little to do with identifying as a sub or dom.  If you don't like the way you are being treated then don't put youself in those situations.




azropedntied -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 11:47:26 AM)

I so agree with this , with the exception of one word , Dominant .This guy was not what i call a Dominant  , more like a male who just took advantage and took what he wanted, a Dom  would have  had much more honor and respect for himself and you  .
The punching  thing ? yes!, and i bet the line would form for this activity .

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

You come across in a way that makes me want to protect you, danielle. The protective streak in me is glowing red and ready to punch this guy out for taking advantage of you. As a dominant, he should have looked out for your best interest. However, it's not all his fault. You have to be careful not to put yourself in situations where you have trouble saying no. So believe me when I say that I am delighted by your last message, the wisdom you are showing now.

I hope you find a decent owner quick, 'cause you need one! *wink*




MistressSybella -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:04:18 PM)

LOL! Well, yes...but as I was typing that, I thought, "What else do I call him?"

I opted to be nice. :) 




MamaDomme1 -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:05:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: elleelisa


It was actually during the fires last year and he lives close to them, so that was his excuse.




Okay, so this wonderful *Dom* that you immediately jumped thru hoops for and had sex with right at first meeting, not only acted inappropriately afterwards, but he also put your life in a precarious situation by having YOU drive into the fire areas??????

And this was a year ago? 

And your memory of the inadequate feelings have now faded so you can throw yourself into the same thing again.

HUGE red flags!!!

Run, Danielle, RUN!!!!  If he calls, don't answer or just hang up.  Don't drive there to meet him again.  Hell, the sex wasn't even that good if you were WTFing it on the way home.


*JMHO*




azropedntied -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:15:27 PM)

Awee Miss Bella  i bet you can think of many other names .. [;)]We shall just leave it at the  "opt to be nice" lol ..
I just hate self tagged ,Dom positions of power ,who deceive to take advantage of others  for  their own personal gain .
To the OP  hope he does nt call  or anything else , and learn from it .

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

LOL! Well, yes...but as I was typing that, I thought, "What else do I call him?"

I opted to be nice. :) 




CruelDesires -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:19:11 PM)

You can't advantage of the willing.

C-D




divi -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:23:12 PM)

I agree with the bunch.. he got what he wanted so why call and it has nothing to do with Dom/sub




ChicagoAmy -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:25:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: msprudence



DTMFA.  (Dump the MF already... It's a Savage Love thing.)


This just made me really happy to see this. Savage Love is practically my bible!




azropedntied -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:30:42 PM)

True and she is not with out fault in the matter . I also read in her responce printed" i wont do that again on a first  date /meeting ! second date ? sure ".Drive or otherwise meet  like that is not safe period . I dont get that . Build trust and the dynamic first. Is this  a date or a bdsm dynamic  desired ? Shrugs only she can answer . Like i stated prior, there is great, real world , usable words here to digest for the OP .

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ORIGINAL: CruelDesires

You can't advantage of the willing.

C-D




mrbob726 -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:46:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

. . . . . . . . . . ."What else do I call him?"

The word "asshole" come to mind ?




MistressSybella -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 12:57:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mrbob726

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ORIGINAL: MistressSybella

. . . . . . . . . . ."What else do I call him?"

The word "asshole" come to mind ?



I don't have a sailor's tongue. So, no...it didn't. LOL!




JoePNY707 -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 2:33:32 PM)

elleelisa, I would trust your gut feelings. This guy sounds like an opportunist--one who took advantage of your good nature, and then did not have the courtesy to call when he should have!

Some gentleman! LOL

Seriously, I'd look for someone who knows what 'courtesy' means.

Just my 2 cents--good luck!




pissdoll -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 4:40:51 PM)

you've made a lot of mistakes.

i'm sure i'll get a bunch of hate from this, but i don't necessarily think the guy is a jerk.

you two met, you had some nsa fun, you parted. he has no obligation to you.

when you got home, you could have easily called him and said "i made it home safely" instead of waiting for him to contact you.


but all of the details are neither here nor there.

Either you like the way he treats you and will continue on, or you don't like it and you won't.







windchymes -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 5:10:25 PM)

He hit the jackpot....a chick willing to drive 125 miles to have sex with him, and at the same time, saved him a bundle of money on gas.  That's probably why he let a week go by before he called again....he didn't have to.




whiteslavebitch -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 5:34:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

Hopefully it goes something like this.

You see a guy
Guy makes you wet
Guy makes you feel safe
You then start to want to submit to him
Guy shows he can make you wet AND safe over a period of time
Trust develops
You then show him/offer him the submission you have been feeling because he has proven worthy of your trust.



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Succinct and to the point, very well said Michael




whiteslavebitch -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 5:52:19 PM)

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It souds to me like this is not a person you'd want to be topped by anyway: he cant be bothered to call and make sure you got home from your long drive in one piece. I'd hate to find out what else he can't be bothered to check on.


Whenever I leave MasterK's home, I am supposed to call him to let him know I've made it safely home. If I don't call, he will call me. This also occurs whenever I'm travelling.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 5:53:37 PM)

I dont care if you are a sub. The man should always proof he is worthy of your time. If he was truly interested in you, he would have driven to meet you. Men are hunters and want a hard earned prize. You were not hard won, you were easy. he didnt even have to go to any effort at all, so why would you be suprised if he didnt call you for a week?

i am not saying these things in arrogance, I learned the hard way. For the first time in my life someone is earning my trust before I hop into the sack with them. They value me and themselves and do not take the D's role and emotional and physical connections lightly.

So dont be in such a sub frenzy rush to find a dom. be okay being alone and take your time finding a worthy Dominant who will cherish you.

Dont give away the farm before finding out if the farmers got the necessary equipment to till your soil.




OldBastardly1 -> RE: He doesn't call... (8/5/2008 6:50:29 PM)

Maybe he feels like a human dildo. Maybe that makes him feel like *he* was used, taken advantage of. Maybe he prefers to actually wait until there is a mental connection before fucking like animals.
In situations like this ( quick, meaningless sex ) why is it always the guy who is thought to be taking advantage of the poor defenseless woman? 




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