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TallDevoted1 -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 9:23:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Why exactly is this an issue for you, sfdrew?


Can't he just be intrigued by a puzzle?

I'm with Akasha... many "lesbians" (perhaps even the majority) are actually men.   Its been that way since the internet was created!



sfdrew -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 10:17:13 AM)

So basically what I am hearing is that most of you have been beaten down so hard and become so jaded that you have not only stopped caring about things you disagree with but you also feel a need to put down and question anybody else that does?

Of course the interenet is full of frauds and fakes and of course there is no way to verify and of course I don't think I am protecting anybody (which I never claimed to be in the first place if you would pay attention).

I am simply bringing the topic up for discussion. If you disagree then please feel free to explain your case instead of putting me down. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this conversation other than spewing your negative, jaded, pathetic outlook on life onto other people then please find somewhere else to post. I don't come into your threads and insult you.



Leatherist -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 10:18:21 AM)

Dude, you cannot control what others do-control yourself.



Lockit -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 10:53:51 AM)

I once had Polly Anna, rose colored glasses super glued to my face.  I tried to change government, society, etc.  I woke up about six years ago and found that a good portion of the work I did and my causes... was almost a waste of time.  There was some change... but not enough to warrant all I put into it.  Now I just work on what's around me and call it good.  The Polly Anna, rose colored glasses are now only used for migraines.  The tint really helps. hehe

It is not that we are jaded for the most part.  It is that we are older, wiser hopefully and know what might work verses what might not.  Life, online, people... are what they are... just go forth and do what you do and ignore the idiots, giving attention to those things and people that really matter.  And then sometimes allow sadistically playing with those you wish to when you feel like batting a lil mouse around.



LotusSong -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 11:04:58 AM)

Take into account the great amount of guys posing as "lesbians" to get their kicks on here.  Then you have the "curious" perusing possibilities.  I agree.. don't put too much stock in this message board as representative.



MsSaskia -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 11:39:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sfdrew

So basically what I am hearing is that most of you have been beaten down so hard and become so jaded that you have not only stopped caring about things you disagree with but you also feel a need to put down and question anybody else that does?

Of course the interenet is full of frauds and fakes and of course there is no way to verify and of course I don't think I am protecting anybody (which I never claimed to be in the first place if you would pay attention).

I am simply bringing the topic up for discussion. If you disagree then please feel free to explain your case instead of putting me down. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute to this conversation other than spewing your negative, jaded, pathetic outlook on life onto other people then please find somewhere else to post. I don't come into your threads and insult you.



Of course, the only possible reason anyone might disagree with you or not care is that there's something wrong with them.  That's what you keep saying, over and over, in different ways.

Another possibility is that some of us have enough experience and wisdom to know how to choose our battles.  Some of us battle the inequities we find offensive in real life, volunteering in our communities and being constructive and trying to model ethical behavior.  Beats the hell out of getting twisted about people who lie on the internet because it gets actual results.

If you want to be Don Quixote of CollarMe, that's your choice.  Insulting people who don't agree isn't going to get you any Sancho Panzas.  Assuming that anyone who questions you is stupid or flawed or jaded or beaten down or however you choose to characterize people will keep your ego intact, but being the lone voice in the wilderness, telling everyone else they're f*cked up and can't see the truth right there in front of them has been comedic fodder for a few years.  Thousands, maybe. 



RedMagic1 -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 12:51:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sfdrew
If you disagree then please feel free to explain your case instead of putting me down.

I did, and you have not responded.  Do you think that makes you look scientific in the eyes of others? Everything you have posted so far accuses someone of something.  First the "prince$$es," then the phony lezdoms, then the beaten-down pathetic forum posters.  What do you have to contribute that is positive?



LadyLupineNYC -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 2:32:22 PM)

Come come...there is more than enough negativity to go around on this post from all sides. 

Having said that, part of this is my fault, I am a sociologist by training (for those of you who 'guess' that was his primary interest, you are right *golf clap*) and we do spend a lot of time talking about D/s & BDSM views and issues with a sociology twist. I would point out that sfdrew's original post had less to do with 'crap there are a lot of fakes on here' and more with, what was to him, an honest question that has since spiraled somewhat off topic (and with the admitted slightest nudge of his own hand). 'What?' you say “a CM posting that has degraded into a place of ad hominem attacks?!” I know...shocking.
Still, I see in none of sfdrew's posting anything about his desire to 'protect' or that the 'something should be done!!'...but more a wish for open honesty about motives and his own desire to try and puzzle out said other's motives for being 'less than honest' are. To go further, assuming (or was that 'ASSuming', as one posted so glibly pointing out) the CM profiles are (mostly) factual, why ARE there so many 'seeking woman only' profiles, no matter the orientation?
I realize that this is a somewhat self interested post, after all, he is 'my boy', but still...forgive him his youthful and yearning indiscretions as he seeks a larger 'truth' for himself even as we may fault some of his views by trying to more actively engage the issues at hand.

...Or not....tis just the net after all....



AquaticSub -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 2:42:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sfdrew

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

Why exactly is this an issue for you, sfdrew?


I care because it is dishonest. I care because I believe that a lot of honest, well-intentioned, passionate lesbian female slaves are being subjected to an environment where they cannot trust anybody they meet because the market is flooded with men who are trying to abuse them for their own purposes.

I am almost certian that everybody sees through the fake prince$$ profiles looking for money (and maybe some don't and that is sad). Nobody ever mentions this other problem. I shouldn't have to be directed connected to this to blow the whistle. I cannot even be certian that this is happening for sure but I have presented my best effort to look into the matter at the moment for the discussion of the group on these boards.

I am sorry that you don't have anything to contribute other than to question my motives.



What's the point of blowing the whistle? The game will be up as soon there is a real time meeting and the lesbian in question has a penis. While the intentions may be good, I think it's misplaced. I personally don't think that this ruins the site for me because I simply block and move on with my life. Every collection of people will have assholes and wankers.

Is it ok to trick people online? No it's not. But the sort of community that will scan the new members carefully enough that it can ensure there are no wankers isn't the online community I want to belong to. In order to get that, I'd have to give up a certain amount of privacy. This is not a jaded point of view but simply a practical one. Your goal is feasible only for "real world" groups where the members can each be met and interviewed, and not a free online community.



RedMagic1 -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 2:58:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC
Come come...there is more than enough negativity to go around on this post from all sides. 

First things first, I'm glad to see you back!!!

Second, I've found a sure-fire way to avoid 99% of flames is to be positive in attitude when possible, and to be factual 100% of the time.  Stating something like, "This sucks, what are you-all going to do about it," is not a way to win support, either online or in real.

I am sure you know this, and frankly I feel all warm inside because you stepped in to defend your boy -- yeah, my MasterCard will be revoked at the end of the month for that -- so I'm not going to get too on your case about things.  You might notice, though, that (1) he has not responded to me, and I didn't insult him once, even though he made statements which were inflammatory and false; and (2) he has not apologized or restated anything, even though another poster apologized, and you apologized "for" him.

Bottom line: this whole thing would be more productive if people would deal with facts and data, and not worry about someone's inner motivation.  I promise, their motivations will become apparent after they open their mouths and talk for a while.



sfdrew -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 3:10:25 PM)

OY! This is actually Lady Lupine writing- logged in as the slave- how awful!!! lol

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

First things first, I'm glad to see you back!!!

Second, I've found a sure-fire way to avoid 99% of flames is to be positive in attitude when possible, and to be factual 100% of the time. 

...[edited for space]....

Bottom line: this whole thing would be more productive if people would deal with facts and data, and not worry about someone's inner motivation.  I promise, their motivations will become apparent after they open their mouths and talk for a while.



Gosh...I had no idea I had even been missed!
While I understand what you are saying about 'facts and figures'; I would counter by stating that he had started out that way (regardless of what others have stated about the inherent fallacy of statistically-based reasoning). Having read his primary post several times, I have to give him credit for at least TRYING.
On your point about his not responding, he does have free will and if he chooses to, he can choose to not respond. I have it on good authority that he is a tad disenchanted with the off-topic negative responses...then again, I am sure he will get over it.

Personally, I think he has become spoiled by all the positive praise on his other posed topic on cuckolding. Perhaps he should be punished for excessive pride? [;)]



RedMagic1 -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 3:16:27 PM)

I was going to respond, but it's better offline.  You've got mail as LLNYC.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: So many female domme? (8/1/2008 3:42:42 PM)

He didn't respond to any of us, really...

Here is a FACT for you, though not couched with numbers.  Most of the people who have profiles on the other side will NEVER come to the message boards.  Not now, not ever.  I am willing to say that there are not too many men posing as lesbian dominants on this side of the site.  So, why bother us with stuff we know already?  As has already been said, we choose our battles.  I am much more productive helping real live people who *solicit* my help and advice, rather than forcing a view on someone who is not interested, and can't do anything to change the situation, be it real or percieved.




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