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Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 1:34:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is ponyplay edgeplay? It seems tame to me compared with some of the intense floggings I've received from Dommes during general BDSM play (while shackled bent over a wooden horse or locked onto a St. Andrews cross, for examples). Ponyplay seems almost gentle compared to those experiences. Even when I've been whacked with the whip during pony training, it was fleeting, and only to enforce a command (it works every time!) But I know experienced hard-core players who can take lots of pain and love things like having candle wax dripped all over their genitals, hard floggings & whippings, severe bondage, sensory deprivation and more (and have even appeared in videos doing this), who turn away shyly and shake their heads when asked to try some ponyplay. Why would that be? Is ponyplay that "out there" compared to other kinds of kinky play? If so, why?

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 1:36:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see it kind of like age play... some people don't want a babygirl/boy and others don't want a pony. If I was a domme I know I'd want a full-on human that would scream and react like a human to pain, but to each their own, you know?

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:04:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		maybe a definition of edgeplay is in order  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgeplay
or this one
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EDGE PLAY: 1. Any practice which involves significant risk of injury or physical harm; as, breath control, fire play. 2. Any practice which challenges the limits or boundaries of one or more of the participants.


I personally do not consider flogging or ponyplay  to be edgeplay


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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:19:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		We do not consider Pony play edgeplay.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:21:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes but you would have to pony to understand that.

i don't mean to be obtuse, truly i don't, but to pony deeply, to go to the core of pony space, to disappear as a human, and to become an animal, it is very edgy....

from the outside i could see how some folks would find it not so, but when you shape shift in to other dimensions, when cross the boundaries and expectations of being in human form, you open the door to the primal self where anything can happen.

most pony play that i have seen is dress up play, and that sexy yummy but  not edgy per say....however there is a place that a pony can go beyond that where you can feel every ripple of the wind on your tender hide, where you can smell the fresh grass two fields away, and where the wild calls your soul  to run. 

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:22:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pony play is not edge play, but it is a niche for roleplay that some do not like. Just like age play, puppy play and other character-needed play types,  there are just some people who arent into it. I dont get much out of animal play, regardless of the animal. To each their own, of course, but it doesnt do anything for me.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:24:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are taking things to extremes and edgeplay.  Ponyplay is nothing I'd consider all that crazy on the edge.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 3:58:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anything can be edgeplay- depends on how risky you make it and how inherently risky for that particular person it is.  Someone afraid of horses, it could be really freakin edgy for them.

But it is not generally conglomerated in the "always high risk" types of kinky play most people associate as edge play.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:00:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ponyboyachilles

Is ponyplay edgeplay?


Only if you use real ponies. 

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:22:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: ponyboyachilles

Is ponyplay edgeplay?


Only if you use real ponies. 


Depends on how you play with them.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:36:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Anything can be edgeplay- depends on how risky you make it and how inherently risky for that particular person it is.  Someone afraid of horses, it could be really freakin edgy for them.

But it is not generally conglomerated in the "always high risk" types of kinky play most people associate as edge play.


I agree for the most part what you sad, until you wimped out in the last sentence.  Edgeplay is edgeplay if you don't like it but are willing to do it to be pleasing, but really don't like it....

Like a hard limit that your forced into is edgeplay, and it could be anything from eating a bug to pretending to be a pony you find dehumanizing and degrading......

Yea, pain, no biggy, hell, but know me as a human!  So yea, to each their own, and to some people, your kink is freaky, and to you, they are freaky.....

the head space of a pony, um, yea,  people eatting too many shrooms(any) and live like a pony for a bit(locked up and getting claustrophobic), and you'll be thinking about what the grass is like to roam around (free) two fields over is like that you remember seeing on your way to the stables your stuck in for days.....

http://www.sky-tribe.com/Uploads/st_42358_CULTIVATING_THE_SHROOM_WI

um, was looking for this dude:  Castaneda's "Teachings of Don Juan"  -  yea, nothing new, shroom eating....

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:46:10 PM   
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I agree for the most part what you sad, until you wimped out in the last sentence.  Edgeplay is edgeplay if you don't like it but are willing to do it to be pleasing, but really don't like it....

That makes no sense- with this definition, if I enjoy something, then it cannot be edge play?


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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:50:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: wwwkevinww
I agree for the most part what you sad, until you wimped out in the last sentence.  Edgeplay is edgeplay if you don't like it but are willing to do it to be pleasing, but really don't like it....

That makes no sense- with this definition, if I enjoy something, then it cannot be edge play?



yea, edgeplay by definition is when you are focused on things you really don't like and learn to like them, once you like them, its no longer edgeplay....

Edgeplay is expanding your limits....usually soft limits but limits non-the-less....if you like it, they are no longer soft limits to you.....

You can only do so much edge-play in soft limits before you expand into your hard limits...

How do you think you turn someone who is normal into a total kink-willing to do anything.....gradually, with patience.....edgeplay is the right tool to get someone to do things they thought they would never of thought reasonable.........

And why edgeplay gets more, I don't know, edgy and unsafe.....

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 4:58:27 PM   
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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 5:04:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a high risk of a vet shoving a hand up your backside if he mistakes you for a real horse. I'd actually question the credentials of a vet that was unable to spot a genuine horse though. It’s more hedge play than edge play IMHO.

edited: to include some humbility.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 5:08:53 PM   
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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 5:49:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		It depends on the person. One man's edgeplay, is another's warmup.

If you have serious issues with having your human identity taken away from you, or have problems with playing in this way, outside, and possibly in public, then yes, it could be edgeplay... But being an aspiring ponyboy myself, the few times I've been in that situation, and in that role, (usually during pride parades) I've found it to be exhilerating! 

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 6:00:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Isn't edge play defined as something physically dangerous though? Could be dangerous if ponypeople pulled a cart through a rough neighbourhood but I fail to see any other real dangers? It's not like the hoofs are nailed onto your feet.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 6:23:14 PM   
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Isn't edge play defined as something physically dangerous though? Could be dangerous if ponypeople pulled a cart through a rough neighbourhood but I fail to see any other real dangers? It's not like the hoofs are nailed onto your feet.


Any BDSM activity has elements of danger to it.  That is what entices alot to it.......

If you don't realize this, you need to reacquant yourself with Murphy.

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RE: Is ponyplay edgeplay? - 6/28/2008 6:26:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		An example of something going wrong leading to danger in this activity area then if you please?

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