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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 6:38:48 AM

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BTW, I find it amazing that anyone would assert that 'there aren't enough lawyers (in America) to do the work'.

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They've been saying that for years about engineers. A lot of unemployed engineers and the Institute for Electrical and Electronic Engineers have a real hard time with that.

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 6:56:14 AM

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I find the topic of outsourcing US jobs interesting,
so I will start sharing some of the more interesting fields
being "outsourced".

U.S. Legal Work Booms in India - washingtonpost.com

Any thoughts on outsourcing?
Good or bad for the economy?

What F**ktards!

BTW, I find it amazing that anyone would assert that 'there aren't enough lawyers (in America) to do the work'.

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More lawyers are entering the work force, thanks in part to the accreditation of new law schools and an influx of applicants after the dot-com implosion earlier this decade. In the 2005-06 academic year, 43,883 Juris Doctor degrees were awarded, up from 37,909 for 2001-02, according to the American Bar Association. Universities are starting up more law schools in part for prestige but also because they are money makers. Costs are low compared with other graduate schools and classrooms can be large. Since 1995, the number of ABA-accredited schools increased by 11%, to 196.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119040786780835602.html

The tite of this article is 'Hard Case: Job Market Wanes for U.S. Lawyers'; Wahington Post, September 26, 2007.

I fail to see any upside to outsourcing jobs from any sector of the U.S, economy, and feel legislation should be passed to prohibit this.

Time for another letter to my Senators and Congressmen.

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119040786780835602.html

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

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Pinkie, yes, kind of makes you wonder who *our congress* represents in Washington, "The People" or more likely,....the corporations.
This is why we need to get money and lobbyists out of Washington!
I'm going to buy that new book out "Free Lunch" that tells us what's really going on behind the scenes.

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 6:57:42 AM

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I'm going to buy that new book out "Free Lunch" that tells us what's really going on behind the scenes.

Who's the publisher?

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 8:16:23 AM

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I wouldn't put my company's reputation on the line with that.
But, it appears, many would.
And will be crying when they have no recourse when things go south.

How is an Indian lawyer's work going to be inferior to an American paralegal's?

I was not comparing an Indian lawyer's work with a paralegal's work, (although that is essentially what they are using them for, it seems)

I was saying that if and when this 'lawyer' that they are using messes up, they will have no recourse.
If I owned a business, I ALSO wouldn't take advice from a paralegal. If a paralegal were doing work for my company he/she would be working under the direct supervision of a lawyer, who I would be able to hold accountable should a problem arise.

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 8:20:57 AM

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I'm going to buy that new book out "Free Lunch" that tells us what's really going on behind the scenes.

Kittin, I don't know but I was going to swing by Border's this afternoon, they should have it in the "New Releases" section.
From what I heard last night it's going to be a real eye opener as to just how things in the congress and Washington are done!
The author said that "it's easier for companies to "mine" the taxpayers than to dig their own mines now."
He had a breif interview with Lou Dobbs last night.

Who's the publisher?

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 8:25:20 AM

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Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (and Stick You with the Bill) (Hardcover)
by David Cay Johnston (Author)

Product Details

Hardcover: 352 pages
Publisher: Portfolio Hardcover (December 27, 2007)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1591841917
ISBN-13: 978-1591841913

From Publishers Weekly
"Johnston, a New York Times investigative reporter, has spent his 40-year career exposing collusion between government officials and private sector entities as they enrich the rich and ignore consequences for middle-class laborers and the poor. In Perfectly Legal, he focused on hidden inequities in the tax system. This volume is a broader examination of collusion and unfairness, ranging from subsidies for professional sports stadiums to secret payouts to multinational corporate chief executives. At the base of Johnston's journalistic indictment are the highly paid lobbyists working Congress, state legislatures, county commissions, city councils and government regulatory agencies. Johnston also cites the culpability of George W. Bush in his roles as professional baseball team owner, Texas governor and U.S. president, and targets well-known tycoons such as Donald Trump, Warren Buffett and George Steinbrenner as well as lesser-recognized beneficiaries who own golf courses and insurance companies and energy consortiums. Heroes appear occasionally, such as Remy Welling, an Internal Revenue Service investigator who blew the whistle on improper tax breaks for the wealthy and lost her job. Johnston writes compellingly to show how government-private sector collusion affects the middle class and the poor."

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 8:27:55 AM

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Damnation, blushes. You beat me to it

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The book title makes it sound suspiciously socialistic: sure you can handle it, popeye :-) ?

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 8:56:08 AM

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Damnation, blushes. You beat me to it .

The book title makes it sound suspiciously socialistic: sure you can handle it, popeye :-) ?

Kittin, it's not about socialism it's about Corruption!
I've been saying this for years, lobbyists are the lowest life form and should be crushed like bugs.
Thanks Blushes!

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 2:33:01 PM

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Thanks for the information blushy, I never heard of this book before.
Government and big business are certainly bed buddies and great friends.
When you look at the political climate it is obvious, just rarely stated.

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 2:40:18 PM

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I didn't know anything about it. People asked, so I looked it up. You all are welcome, and no prob!

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 3:43:43 PM

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I was not comparing an Indian lawyer's work with a paralegal's work, (although that is essentially what they are using them for, it seems)

I was saying that if and when this 'lawyer' that they are using messes up, they will have no recourse.
If I owned a business, I ALSO wouldn't take advice from a paralegal. If a paralegal were doing work for my company he/she would be working under the direct supervision of a lawyer, who I would be able to hold accountable should a problem arise.

They will have as much recourse as any other employer has when an employee screws up... did we think the Indian's were going to tell the outsourcing company 'I am sorry, but there iss no one named 'Chuck' here..'.

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 5:08:38 PM

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There is an absolute difference between suing someone who lives and works in the U.S. and who follows U.S. law, and someone who doesn't live and work in the U.S. (and follows the laws they choose to follow)

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RE: US Legal work--booms in India! - 6/24/2008 5:14:35 PM

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I take your point, but international employment law, particularly contracts with employees in India, has been around for quite a while, I don't think they would be totally without recourse, more likely that they would have to go to more trouble.

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