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ORIGINAL: BumbleBee2MsP

It's Friday the Thirteenth. Does a Mistress in a black cat suit cause bad luck? like the blues tune says "i ain't supersticious, but a black cat crossed my trail." anyone else concerned about mirrors, ladders or anything else today?

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ORIGINAL: came4U

sorry for the hijack.

but, if anyone sees 'The Happening' tonight, please tell how it was.  Is it as scary as all the hype says it is???

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while most horror movies just suck

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

FYI, the reason Friday the 13th is considered unlucky stems not from true superstition, but actually the actions of a French King who wanted to get out of paying a debt.

In 1307, King Philippe of France trumped up a number of false charges against the knights templar in general, their Grand Master Jacques De Moley.

At dawn, on the morning of Friday the 13th of October, 1307, his troops raided every Templar precept in France, arresting all of the Templars on charges of heresy, sodomy, and a number of others.

This single act was done with the aid of Pope Clement, his nephew, who he had arranged to be Pope, after the 'accidental' death of the previous Pope.

The following trials were the beginning of the inquisition, resulting in a large number of templars being executed, usually by being burned at the stake (actually, it would be more correct to say, slow roasted.)

So, in truth, Friday the 13th is only unlucky if you happen to be a Poor Knight of the Temple and have managed to piss off the king of France who is the Pope's uncle.

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ORIGINAL: BumbleBee2MsP

It's Friday the Thirteenth. Does a Mistress in a black cat suit cause bad luck?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14493a.htm

The above is probably the most factual account of the true history of the Knights Templar.

My reference was actually a book that I used as a source for a paper I wrote some years ago on the History of the Order, as well as some of the legends that seemed to be linked to them, including that of the holy grail,  guardians of the blood line of christ (this is not a new legend, it has been around since the Albigensian crusade of  1209 against the Cathars.)

A bit more on the persecution of the Templars, although the Pope ordered all Temple Knights to be arrested, only those in France were, Templar Knights in the rest of Europe simply vanished into the mainstream of society, except in Scotland, where most consparacy theorists claim they founded the Masonic Lodge.

One more point, it was known that the Knights Templar had large financial holdings, in fact they founded the first international banking system.  At the time of the arrests, none of the vast wealth was ever found, leading to the bankruptcy of a large number of Nobles.  This wealth has yet to be found, and has been estimated by historians to be worth in excess of tens of millions francs in 1307.

What is known that may have some connection to this mystery is that the large number of Templar ships anchored in Bardauex sailed on the morning of the raids.  None of those ships arrived in any port in Europe or in the Muslim empire.

One last postscript, when King Louis was beheaded during the French revolution, one person was heard to yell out, "Jacques De Moley is avenged!"

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

we french are always trying to get out of debt... why do u think we made french kiss? and french fries?...they were bribes.

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i could totally live on french kisses and french fries...well, i'd need a kfc gravy shooter after the fries and a glass of red wine in between the kisses. i'm not asking much am i?

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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i could totally live on french kisses and french fries...well, i'd need a kfc gravy shooter after the fries and a glass of red wine in between the kisses. i'm not asking much am i?

id be happy to help..but your hair would get in the way.