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Hippiekinkster -> RE: Earth and Oil (5/27/2008 11:43:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
Also remember that we have fossils of tropical plants found in Alaska and Siberia. Meaning about 50 million years ago...there were rain forests up there. At one point, this planet was much hotter than it is today.

Never heard of continental drift I guess.

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The Earth will not turn into Venus. Venus is too close to the sun which is why it is burning up, and Mars is too far away from the sun, which is why the water is frozen at its ice caps. The Earth is at that perfect distance for life.

Atmospheric physics and chemsitry eluded you too I see. In reality Venus is much much hotter than it would be if not for the mix of gases in its atmosphere. Various clues suggest that Earth's atmosphere was essentially Venusian when life was getting started. Mars is cold not just because it is farther away from the sun. The planet's low surface gravity results ina thin atmosphere not capable of trapping much heat.

Those fish in that barrel just don't know when they've been shot, do they? [8D]




Hippiekinkster -> RE: Earth and Oil (5/27/2008 11:52:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

And I suppose you buy into the junk science that if we keep driving our cars the way we are that our atmosphere is going to end up like Venus?
Don't be silly.

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The eruption of Mt Saint Helens spewed more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere in that single eruption than all the cars on the planet combined in a 10 year period.
Citation, please.

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Our contribution of greenhouses gases to the atmosphere is minuscule.
Citation, please.

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And we are NOT running out of oil! Jesus Christ....There is enough oil another 150-200 years at least!
Citation, please. 
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Our technology is also increasing meaning we can drill deeper and we are finding oil all over the place.
The fact that drillers can go down to 30,000 feet doesn't mean they'll get anything worthwhile.
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 They just recently found a new source of oil in Brazil.
They have to get it out. 
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 There is 1.2 trillion barrels in the Canadian oil sands.
They have to get it out. Citation for the number, please.
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There is a ton of oil under Venezuela that hasnt even been touched yet. There is a ton of oil under the Gulf of Mexico and in Alaska. There is a ton in Siberia that still hasnt been tapped.
A ton isn't very much. Got some numbers? 
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There oil sources on the ocean floor of the Arctic Sea off the coast of Norway. The US is in West Africa right now signing oil deals. And I havnt even started on the oil shale and coal yet... We got coal up the wahzoo in the United States.

We are not running out of energy! Where are these lies coming from???
Again, let's see some numbers supporting your WAA (that's wild-assed allegation) of 150-200 years.




Irishknight -> RE: Earth and Oil (5/28/2008 6:22:04 AM)

Wow.  Cyber got 3 citations in one post.  Take away his posting license.




Alumbrado -> RE: Earth and Oil (5/29/2008 1:08:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Earth has oil in it for a reason does it not? All that decayed matter is down under the crust to later become something else. I wonder what it's real purpose is. As we continue to use and end up deleting oil, what part of the puzzle are we taking out of Earths big picture in evolution and change.


OK, just got in from a lovely lunch with my lovely geologist... 

As I recall, and greatly oversimplified:

Oil is indeed one step in a process... but it will remain what we think of as 'oil' as long as is is within the 'oil window' of temperature and pressure...  there is no new 'product' like coal from carbon over time, unless something changes drastically enough for it to turn to methane.

Should pockets of oil be depleted, the 'bubble' left behind may cause some localized anomalies, but the notion of Europe sliding into the briny because all the North Sea oil has been pumped out, can only remain wishful thinking...errr, I mean a misconception. 
Oil isn't the hydraulic fluid that holds the planet together.

She also confirmed that the exhaustion of current readily available oil will take place sooner rather than later, but that it has nothing to do with the current spike in prices.




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