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orfunboi -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 9:18:08 AM)

I know absolutely nothing about cars, that said....

I would put it in the garage if available and totally take apart the bad door. Then I would take apart the good door and see if I could spot the problem. Something might have gotten wet or something might have slipped off a track. If its a moisture problem, a hair dryer on low might help. I know there is a gadget to tell if power is reaching a certain point and that can be helpful. But if my problems reach that point, I usually call my dad or brother in law and that won't help you.

Good luck.




orfunboi -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 9:24:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Justme696

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

I have a different reason.  We have lots of canals in Florida that run right next to roads.  In an accident you have a good chance on ending up in a deep canal and the power window won't work when the car is in water.  Now, I can always break the driver's side window with my piece, but Libby doesn't carry and that makes me nervous


you can buy one of those life-safe-hammers.(to cut your belt and smash the window)
http://www.shop.com/Two_(2)_Original_Life_Hammer_Escape_Hammer_(Orange)-35273926-46484274-p!.shtml?sourceid=298

soon they will have to be in every car here. (here beeing The Netherlands)


Those look great, thanks for the link.

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MercTech -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 9:49:39 AM)

Power windows usually have plastic gears.  The gears wear out but the motors don't often.
You have to take off the inner panel of the door and find out exactly what is wrong.
Now, having a mechanically competant subbie to help that has small hands is a godsend for such work.  My large paws get very cut up trying to work inside a door.

Should be able to replace the whole mechanism for around $50 if you go that way.  Expect $300 for a shop to do it.  The mechanics know how long it takes to work in such tight quarters.

Stefan

Stefan




pahunkboy -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 12:14:21 PM)

Hi all.  1998 Chevy Lumina.    it did this one time before and started working later.

it had been parked 1/2 inside the car port.   meaning rain hit in particular there- tho it hit the back windows as well.  I prefer manual windows- but I bought this car used as I prefer no car payment.

one day- I might have left it down- tho I am forgetfull the past x of months.

old things wear out.   $300 into a car this old is something to ponder.

I will try the blow dryer and wd40.   [tho today it is STILL raining.] rain has been to the point the mold is in the air as the vegatation doesnt get a chance to dry out lately.   [sinuses, headaches, etc]

I have to make an errand too far to drive at 55mph - so I will take the truck., yay- on the truck- except the heater core is going on it.  

the past month- i have shelled out $500 in unexpected bills- so im a hyper tightwad at the moment. lol.




Termyn8or -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 2:04:35 PM)

Fuck $300 Hunk. Pick a day it ain't raining and I'll make a couple of phone calls. Just drive down here with about $75 and a case of beer, and if you can get some mother nature that would help.

If the other windows work FROM THE DRIVER'S DOOR CONTROLS you most likely need what is called a regulator. It's the motor/gear assembly or on a non-power window, the crank/gear assembly.

If Leo has one it's probably twenty bucks. With Leo anything that doesn't weigh over a hundred pounds is usually twenty bucks. Probably fifty for Mike, and he knows how to get it put back together right. The beer will help us watch him work.

These regulators go bad all the time. You could probably change it yourself but it is a PITA.

T




petdave -> RE: help w power window? (5/21/2008 6:42:08 PM)

Here is the style of regulator you're dealing with- old-school, heavy duty.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170220988175

Okay, basic power window troubleshooting-

If none of the windows work from any of the switches- fuse

If you can operate other windows from their own switches, but not from the driver's switches- either a bad switch bank, or a broken wire somewhere between the fuse box and the door.   
* Check to see if you have power and a good ground coming into the switch bank (make sure you turn ignition on to test). If
you do, the switches are bad; if not, the wiring is bad.

If the other windows operate from the drivers switch bank, and only the driver's window is stuck- does it make any noise when you try to operate it? Listen to it with the engine, radio, etc. off so that you can hear if there's a hum.
* If not, the motor is either completely seized, or the switch is bad. Hit the switch and see if the dome light dims
**If the dome light does not dim, either the switch is bad, or there is a wiring fault between the switch and the motor
**If the dome light does dim, then either the motor has seized, or mechanism has become jammed. Since you're in Pennsylvania, take the inner door panel off and see if the thing has rusted solid.

* If you hear a hum, whining, or grinding noise, then you've had a breakage in the gear drive somewhere. It's not very likely with this style of regulator, but it can happen. See if you can help the window up with your hand while the motor runs. The entire regulator assembly will need to be replaced. This is a pain in the ass job, and in some vehicles can even require drilling holes in the door, or cutting off a section of the inner door skin.

* If you hear a click or a thump, the motor is no longer producing enough torque to move the window. Open up the door, and see if the window has slipped the track, or if there's some kind of obstruction. If you can get to it, stick a multimeter on the motor terminals and make sure you're getting 12 Volts. If not, failing switch, take it apart and clean it, or replace it.

If everything looks okay physically, and the motor is getting 12V and still not turning, then you can probably get away with replacing just the motor. This may or may not be easier than replacing the whole assembly, depends how it's set up in the door.

On the plus side, it doesn't look like the Lumina uses a spring counterweight to help the glass move up... those things friggin' scare me.




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