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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:26:44 PM   
CalifChick


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Status: offline 		Is this now a trend (yes, two peeps make a trend).  I gave up my faith in humanity back on May 5.  You're a little late... what took you so long?

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:27:55 PM   
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And this is for you, cholita.  My favorite House single.  Florida here I come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXjLv4FIXw&feature=related

i had a period at the Limelight in Manhattan where house music whilst dancing amongst scantily clad drag queens and rainbow boys was pretty cool.  i  vaguely remember wearing lots of body glitter and green hair...that was the early 90's.  Now i'm more apt to be found bumping this on my stereo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb2si7fClqA
the wee'uns have me under their power....

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:29:55 PM   
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Could have been worse...

I'd be happy if people just said what they thought instead of posting links to stupid songs.  Kinda hard to have a discussion with web links.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:34:05 PM   
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Kinda hard to have a discussion with web links.


Some folks are doing just fine with them... read the thread in Off Topic on Chicago and food

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:35:40 PM   
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Could have been worse...

I'd be happy if people just said what they thought instead of posting links to stupid songs.  Kinda hard to have a discussion with web links.
Admittedly,. a perhaps not so good habit of mine...but i had posted my thoughts.  They were pretty lighthearted, is all.  The song was just a little "extra".  Not meant to frustrate anyone at all....sorry.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:36:02 PM   
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Mainly I'm just tired of having my insecurities triggered by hanging out with losers who happen to have discovered kink. I have a good job, I go to work nearly every day, I go to school, and I manage to maintain a 24/7 relationship with my slave. I like my friends to be the same sort of people. I'm not saying that kink should be some sort of exclusive club- and I'm not saying that money is a measure of a persons quality. I'm saying that this life is hard otherwise everyone who was turned on by it would be doing it. Everyone else out there like me- don't lose hope.. The only thing you have in common with that guy in the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt and makeup is handcuffs somewhere in your apartment.


Yup... i've got a house on four acres, graduated school ten years ago, and go to work every day (the horror!)

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:36:50 PM   
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Outside of work I've ALWAYS found humanity to be bothersome. Fuck it- inside of work humanity is bothersome too. Maybe my hatred for my fellow homo sapiens has just finally caught up with "lifestyle" people?



Seriously... half of the population is bound to be below average.. 20 some percent are mentally ill, the vast majority are liars, everyone has an ego...

If you get a handfull of good experiences in any setting, enjoy them

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:38:10 PM   
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Could have been worse...

I'd be happy if people just said what they thought instead of posting links to stupid songs.  Kinda hard to have a discussion with web links.
Admittedly,. a perhaps not so good habit of mine...but i had posted my thoughts.  They were pretty lighthearted, is all.  The song was just a little "extra".  Not meant to frustrate anyone at all....sorry.


Shame on you....

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:38:17 PM   
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Outside of work I've ALWAYS found humanity to be bothersome. Fuck it- inside of work humanity is bothersome too. Maybe my hatred for my fellow homo sapiens has just finally caught up with "lifestyle" people?

I don't find people to be all that bothersome at all.  Well.. okay, maybe George... he's always whistling these inane tunes where ever he goes... and he only ever talks LOUDLY... but I digress.  Most of the time I find people endlessly fascinating.  I just don't see much reason to hate people.  I may dislike some people (and I do), just as I like others (and I do)... and lots of them I more or less just ignore.  People are people.  I guess what I'm trying to say in a long winded, indirect way is this.  I don't think its wise or healthy to be either overly optimistic or pessimistic about people.  I don't think its a good idea to have a romanticized view of humanity, nor an overly embittered view.  People are as they are... if you find you are frequently disappointed with them... maybe its because your expectations weren't realistic.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:43:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		You get back what you put out.  Project a "I'm just waiting for you to fuck me over attitude" and, well.....

Just look at this thread.  We turned what could have been a whiny vent into something fun.  Whether it's also something helpful depends on what you choose to do, based on what we are saying.

Edited to add: I am talking to GregorianChant.


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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:43:46 PM   
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I dont know anyone who LIKES the uberdom and nolimits TWUE slave types. Those of us who take this a bit more seriously have just learned not to give them the time of day.  The only people I have seen run into a foxhole are the ones who seem to leave common sense at the door... and clueless people or lazy people are way up there with ONE TWUE WAYists in my book.
It isnt faith in humanity thats my problem, its faith in common sense that I have issues with. I am starting to wonder if that still comes standard issue or if some people were missing when it was handed out

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:45:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yanno,I really just laugh at the whole "scene" concept. It's so much like trekkie conventions.

I've actually met some fun people off of here-and they can be quite fun-but I CHOSE my associations there-rather than walking into something ready made-with ready made bs.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:45:45 PM   
Padriag


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Status: offline 		I don't think commons sense was ever very common at all... a brief perusal of human history seems to verify that.  We humans are a damn quirky lot!

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 9:02:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're going to lose faith in people, at least do it for decent reasons and not whiny life sucks angsty teen type disillusionment.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 9:27:40 PM   
Owner4SexSlave


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Status: offline 		First and foremost, just don't loose faith in yourself nor your slave and M/s relationship.

It's perfectly normal to have issues with different groups of Lifestyle people.

However, you have to understand that it's all something you can not control.

Your actions and who you are can have a ripple effect.  Meaning you simply do the best you can to make things better.

If you can help "one person" with one issue, you have already done something pretty amazing.

I pretty much question my own faith in humanity itself all around the world. It's not just limited to BDSM groups, or a specific BDSM Dogma some people have going on.

Now, there will always be some CoDependent flaky sub/slave that will emotionally or otherwise damage a Dom.   The fact is that there are a lot flaky CoDependent Vanilla girls doing the same thing to perfectly good boyfriends and husbands.   There are Codependent male doms.  CoDependancy does not discriminate.

There are so many things I can comment about, but will refrain from.

Basically, worry about how you conduct yourself, your life, and do what you can to make the world a better place. 

Expect to be let down by humanity if you place it too high on a pedalstal. 

Humans are not perfect, why should humanity be any different?

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 9:51:09 PM   
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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 9:52:46 PM   
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You cannot control another persons actions or reactions. You can only control your own. The more you allow these things to steal your power/energy, the more power/energy they will have.

Master Fire



Exactly.

The opposite of love is not hate-it's indifference.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 11:09:17 PM   
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I have to get something off of my chest: I'm getting REALLY tired of several groups of lifestyle people.


That shows good taste.

Living near SF, I've met all too many "lifestyle people". A few are cool, but many are rather pathetic. There are people who take this stuff far too seriously. The ones who show up at a kinky nightclub with more equipment cases than some bands, for example. The ones who give themselves titles ("Master", "Sir", etc.) and take them seriously just come across as pompous fools. Most of the people involved are not very successful outside the scene.

The pros who do it for money seem to be more grounded, and can see the humor in all this. I know three successful bondage actresses, and they all have a mischevious wit and the timing for stand-up comedy.  (Strippers, though, tend to be tragic figures.)

A friend of mine tried a few years back to move the SF kinky scene upscale, throwing some huge parties with a strict dress code. The events were fun, but didn't bring in a more upscale crowd - just the usual kinky crowd from other cities. She gave it up a few years back.

Some of this is an SF thing. The LA kinky crowd is more successful, with many people from film and TV. At LA events, you meet people who have interesting lives outside of kink.

The "online kink" crowd is far worse.  They're just out of touch with reality.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 11:23:57 PM   
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The opposite of love is not hate-it's indifference.

Intersting statement, Leathrist. I feel that the opposite of Love is Fear. For me, fear of change or getting involved or whatever can lead to indifference.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/15/2008 12:14:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		I understand what you are saying. Here’s the thing, if people stand about and allow idiots to remain acting like idiots then they will continue to do so. If you have a sign on you saying “I MIX WITH LOSERS!” You will attract losers. It is time for you to get tough and make a fresh start. Develop a zero tolerance regarding idiot behavior. Tell them they are wrong and if they don’t change then walk away from that crowd. In the long run it is better, you will be happier and less stressed if you refuse to associate with those people. Better to go sole or visit groups further away less often than have all this negativity infecting your personal space and peace of mind. This has worked for me for years and I am far better for it with no more potential heart attacks too.

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