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HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:27:39 PM   
GregorianChant


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I have to get something off of my chest: I'm getting REALLY tired of several groups of lifestyle people. I encounter them with painful regularity, and my feelings towards them worry me. I always made a point of seeing the validity in other peoples viewpoints, kink, and who they were in general. This is getting harder and harder. I was raised to view everyone as equals- and I actually can't stand people who believe their kink to be better than someone elses. This is however not about kink at all- this is about WHO we are... Not simply what we do or have done to us by our significant others in the bedroom.

There have been a few contributing factors in my gradual loss of faith in kinky humanity. I apologize for the bitch thread I'm making, and I genuinely hate whining- but I really would like to have my faith in people restored.

First- and I know this will seem childish to some older lifestyle people (Ironically the people who will find this childish are probably the people to whom I refer)- I'm getting tired of being condescended to by older lifestyle people. At this point I've been in the lifestyle full time for coming up on five years. Granted some of you out there have been involved for 15-20 years... And have a HUGE amount of experience. That being said it's not that hard to wield a flogger- and the more squishy parts of BDSM include a tremendous amount of talent- not merely experience.

Second- I'm getting genuinely sick of watching perfectly good subs harrassed into a foxhole by imbeciles. When I say imbecile I mean a grown adult who has discovered that submissives are far more likely to put up with their horrible body odor, lacking social skills, and general evil nature  than vanilla girls. These parasites latch onto the fact that submissives tend to feel the need to be needed more than the general norm- and usually fuck their lives up but good.

Third- I'm getting really tired of perfectly good doms being damaged by codependent flaky submissives. I have bad news, my definition of submission (and yes- in my world my definition of submission is the one that matters.. not yours dearie) does not involve my caring for someone who doesn't have a scrap of willpower to do for themselves. I'm a sadist not a knight in shining armor. I want to manage my girls life, NOT micromanage it. I don't have time to tell you when to eat, sleep, shit, or go to work. I'm here to help you become the best person you want to be. You have to want it.

Mainly I'm just tired of having my insecurities triggered by hanging out with losers who happen to have discovered kink. I have a good job, I go to work nearly every day, I go to school, and I manage to maintain a 24/7 relationship with my slave. I like my friends to be the same sort of people. I'm not saying that kink should be some sort of exclusive club- and I'm not saying that money is a measure of a persons quality. I'm saying that this life is hard otherwise everyone who was turned on by it would be doing it. Everyone else out there like me- don't lose hope.. The only thing you have in common with that guy in the "I'm with stupid" t-shirt and makeup is handcuffs somewhere in your apartment.

Edited to make my intro make sense.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:46:10 PM   
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You get what you tolerate.

I'm not very tolerant. It makes life better.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:46:35 PM   
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Can't help you... I never had very much faith in humanity of any sort...

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:47:10 PM   
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Perhaps my tolerance level is lowering... and this is merely me mourning that loss of- I guess innocence?

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:50:40 PM   
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quote:

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Perhaps my tolerance level is lowering... and this is merely me mourning that loss of- I guess innocence?


I can spot a flake or a nariccsist at 100 yards these days. And usually try to keep at least that much distance between us-I lost mine a LONG time ago.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:50:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Can't help you... I never had very much faith in humanity of any sort...
Aww...that's sad, actually.  i keep hoping humanity rallies and wins in overtime...like a Jimmy Stewart movie, but in color.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:52:47 PM   
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Since you are talented and successful, you could put your energies into mentoring others.  Anyone can observe a problem and complain about it.  Some of us try to get past that stage and deal with the problems we see.

You might encounter less condescension if you took that approach.


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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:53:50 PM   
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I got over my white knight syndrome too-fuck it.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:55:04 PM   
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It's funny actually. I'm actually fairly active in my local community- and I do a fairly decent job of talking new people through the first few steps... It's mainly the 'uberdoms' and 'nolimitsubs' who are getting on my nerves. Good, relatively sane, relatively normal, and sincere people I can't get enough of.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:58:43 PM   
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I got over my white knight syndrome too-fuck it.

I know that is how you feel.  I have a lot of respect for you anyway, because of your craft, your knowledge, and because at one time you felt differently.  Fact is, though, it's possible to extend a hand to others without burning yourself out.  Making a difference and being the White Knight Who Will Solve All Problems, No One Else Has to Work At All, are not the same thing.


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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 7:59:40 PM   
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I got over my white knight syndrome too-fuck it.
well NOW you've played the race card...
sorry, the political threads are invading my thoughts...

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:02:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

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Can't help you... I never had very much faith in humanity of any sort...
Aww...that's sad, actually.  i keep hoping humanity rallies and wins in overtime...like a Jimmy Stewart movie, but in color.

Why is it sad?  People are as they are... some are good, some are bad, most are inbetween.  I simply don't live expecting or hoping for more of people than they are actually capable of.  I don't expect the town drunk to be anything other than what he is.  On the other hand, I know some exceptional people and I know they'll do exceptional things because its in their nature.  "Humanity" is an ideal someone made up... and its about 90% myth.  People are just that.... people... they are as they are.

Color me a pragmatic realist... who's living a dream.  Okay, so I'm full of conundrums... my life is funny that way.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:10:59 PM   
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Padriag ...this is for You.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQWgUF3dxkQ

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:17:12 PM   
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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:19:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GregorianChant

It's funny actually. I'm actually fairly active in my local community- and I do a fairly decent job of talking new people through the first few steps... It's mainly the 'uberdoms' and 'nolimitsubs' who are getting on my nerves. Good, relatively sane, relatively normal, and sincere people I can't get enough of.
i wonder OP...do you find the same frustration outsde of the "lifestyle"?  Would you say humanity in general is becoming a bit bothersome?

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:20:18 PM   
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Could have been worse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz303CXZY4I&feature=related

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:20:32 PM   
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And this is for you, cholita.  My favorite House single.  Florida here I come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbXjLv4FIXw&feature=related


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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:21:52 PM   
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Outside of work I've ALWAYS found humanity to be bothersome. Fuck it- inside of work humanity is bothersome too. Maybe my hatred for my fellow homo sapiens has just finally caught up with "lifestyle" people?

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:22:28 PM   
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And the OP desrves better than that.  Yeah once the doors open, you have to put up with whoever comes through, by and large. Focus more on the people you enjoy.

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RE: HELP! I'm losing my faith in kinky humanity! - 5/14/2008 8:23:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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Could have been worse...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz303CXZY4I&feature=related


It can always get worse.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kawYrDnKfVs

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