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Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 1:41:57 PM   
ididabadbadthing


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Status: offline 		Intense physical pleasure and intense physical pain do not simply resist language but actively destroy it, bringing about a reversion to a state anterior to language, to the sounds and cries a human being makes before language is learned. Unlike any other states of consciousness physical pleasure and physical pain can exist without referential content. Neither physical pleasure nor physical pain need be of or for anything. Often, intense physical pleasure will, if deprived of an object, begin to approach the neighborhood of pain. And intense physical pain, when indissolubly bound to an object of great attachment, can flow into and out of the greatest pleasure.
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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 1:58:26 PM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		Ummmm. Okay..... HUH??

**Actually I think I get what you are saying and if you are then you bring the question of is Masochism possible attached to the Infantile Brain...... I do not wish to believe it does. I have my own reasons but mostly it has to do with the fact that we all react to different impulses differently. Pain and Pleasure are basic concepts and to the brain there is little difference however the comprehension of each of these acts is what changes the enevitable outcome. .... at least I THINK this is the point you were making.

Rather than offering a Scientific explanation maybe dumb it down a bit so that everyone can play.... myself included.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 2:08:18 PM   
CalifChick


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Status: offline 		I'm pretty sure the deep moans of OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD come from the time after I learned language.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 2:09:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		If that were comletely true, wouldnt we all be masochists?

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 2:09:57 PM   
Sundowner


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One for you softness

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 3:56:50 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		What does intense physical pleasure devoid of an object mean? I don't get it.

Now if this is just a way to refer to that nonverbal state a lot of us get to during subspace, then yes, a lot of us have had the same experience.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 5:36:21 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		For lots of people, sure.  And many more will never be masochists.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 5:42:35 PM   
DesFIP


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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 6:28:25 PM   
HerLord


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quote:

ORIGINAL:ididabadbadthing
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5 >DMNgt;eO*452 75 /zmt:GLk {%}R {O
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Uh.. what the hell did he say?



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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 6:31:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL:ididabadbadthing
;krjtg; hgerutgykjgn kjdgjh ig;,lmg,mv/zkga0 eoug agkndv,.mzn/glkugea098t 'wartgn/,aw4[65e4a7]0cngb/lzdGR:Ltpi Otl,fg zoit7]-39 6mg.,mfgb ,zdjtgpeo5ut eo/ lm,n/lkj aotie
5 >DMNgt;eO*452 75 /zmt:GLk {%}R {O
4\90 lQe/


Uh.. what the hell did he say?




I'm pretty sure this is cribbed out of the DSM IV

If not it's brilliant and insightful.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 6:55:51 PM   
MladyHathor


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ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL:ididabadbadthing
;krjtg; hgerutgykjgn kjdgjh ig;,lmg,mv/zkga0 eoug agkndv,.mzn/glkugea098t 'wartgn/,aw4[65e4a7]0cngb/lzdGR:Ltpi Otl,fg zoit7]-39 6mg.,mfgb ,zdjtgpeo5ut eo/ lm,n/lkj aotie
5 >DMNgt;eO*452 75 /zmt:GLk {%}R {O
4\90 lQe/


Uh.. what the hell did he say?




I'm not sure but it did cause Me enough physical pain, I am speechless.

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 7:40:29 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 7:40:33 PM   
DefiantFlower


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Confucius say what?

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 9:40:52 PM   
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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 10:08:54 PM   
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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/23/2008 10:15:43 PM   
chaosforge


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Status: offline 		maybe we're entering a human-animal part of our brains. i purr and trill in extasy and use breathing methods to counter severe pain as expirienced with my endometriosis.
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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/24/2008 9:44:36 AM   
Daddyslilpookie


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ORIGINAL: HerLord

quote:

ORIGINAL:ididabadbadthing
;krjtg; hgerutgykjgn kjdgjh ig;,lmg,mv/zkga0 eoug agkndv,.mzn/glkugea098t 'wartgn/,aw4[65e4a7]0cngb/lzdGR:Ltpi Otl,fg zoit7]-39 6mg.,mfgb ,zdjtgpeo5ut eo/ lm,n/lkj aotie
5 >DMNgt;eO*452 75 /zmt:GLk {%}R {O
4\90 lQe/


Uh.. what the hell did he say?




LMAO! That was a great laugh for the morning thanks

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/24/2008 11:52:19 AM   
MistressMiracle


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Status: offline 		Thank you, HerLord.  Had zero idea what the question was, or what the diatribe was about. 

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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/24/2008 12:06:47 PM   
masterdstar


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Status: offline 		".. what the hell did he say?"
He said, "
The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.
Tis mightiest in the mightiest; it becomes
The throned monarch better than his crown.
His scepter shows the force of temporal power,
The attribute to awe and majesty,
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings.
But mercy is above this sceptered sway;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings;
It is an attribute of God himself;
And earthly power doth then show like God's
When mercy seasons justice. "
 
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RE: Pain and Pleasure - 4/24/2008 12:08:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: masterdstar

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