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RE: Getting constructive feedback after rejection. - 4/13/2008 11:21:39 PM   
MaamJay


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Strikes Me that the OP is conflicted in herself as to what she wants and who she is. Truly, I think you need to take a step backwards and work out some things and then start afresh.
1. Do you want online or real time? Make it 100% clear in your profile ... saying upfront you are looking to move to real time soon after the initial getting to know you does seem to help weed out some of the online jokers only.
2. Are you a goddess or not? If not, don't put yourself on a pedestal with that name ... there's only one way down you know, and that's to fall off. OUCH!  Consider MasterFireMaam's idea of a different name ... one that is special but not quite so loaded. In My experience, boys who go down the whole goddess thing seem to be far less serious than those searching for a Domme/Domina/Maam or Mistress. (By that I mean no disrespect to others here who have chosen the Goddess tag ... this is just My experience).
3. What's with the 3rd person speak? That is more usually associated with slaves, particularly Gorean ones. I suggest you re-think that as a Dominant.
4. Don't be too hard and fast with the preliminaries ... I would go for up to 5 emails at least. Whether or not you go for a phone call is up to you ... since that's where you seem to get into trouble with attachment ... maybe not. Explain upfront that you intend to exchange a few emails to cover the basics and then you expect to have a coffee meet. No obligation beyond that until you meet and see if you connect. Use those emails to educate them about bdsm if necessary (or to check on how much they really know!) ... set reading and writing tasks. That tends to weed out the fantasy players who just want to get off ... especially if you keep it to nonwank topics such as researching safe calls, safe words, subspace, sub drop etc. Don't rush into the bdsm checklists or talking about play too early.
5. Date? What do you need a date for to merely attend a munch? Absolutely nothing wrong in going by yourself, especially as a Dominant (though lots of subs also go alone). After all, you're there to MEET people ... having someone else with you will tend to make people think you are already a couple ... you might miss out on meeting that really wonderful single male sub!

Remember, you are not alone ... most of us have had our fair share of "poof" boys. So much so, they've been given that name! Male Doms don't seem to complain about poof girls ... more likely, the sub girls complain about poof male Doms! So that should tell you something, this whole going poof thing does seem more likely with males ... as another poster said, they hate confrontation! Not all, I stress, but many. Accept that and move past it, but also take a long hard look as above, at what you might be doing to inadvertently attract the poof'ers.

Finally, remember ... every boy you meet could be "the one". You never know at the start. So try not to be jaded and don't go in expecting rejection ... or you'll get it. Go in expecting the positive ... but also with eyes open to red flags!

Good luck
Maam Jay aka violet[A]


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RE: Getting constructive feedback after rejection. - 4/14/2008 12:02:57 AM   
UncleNasty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagicGoddess
So I guess what I am really asking this forum is for help in composing a good feedback request letter?. Something that a reasonable person would respond to.
I would like to make this letter now to send to the next person that does this.


I've skipped the other posts. Please forgive me if a similar response has already been made.

People that act in these ways, rejecting you without communicating, and refusing any further contact, simply lack integrity. Do not accept responsiblity for their poor behavior. It isn't your fault.

As for any sort of "feedback request letter" I doubt you could construct one that would have the desired effect. The recipients are already in an avoidance mode so a response is unlikely. I would question the value of any responses you might get. Aren't these people acting in emotionally immature ways already? How valuable could their insights be?

I do appreciate your intentions. Very growth oriented.

The people that are willing to offer you this kind of contructive feedback will do so without much prodding from you.

Be well,

Uncle Nasty

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RE: Getting constructive feedback after rejection. - 4/14/2008 12:08:31 AM   
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I do agree with the majority of the posts here... I'd bet that a lot of these guys are not legit. If they are afraid to meet in person, (and afraid to give their contact info!) then I would assume that they are not worth your time.

Secondly, I would ask yourself where you fit in the lifestyle. I am not trying to be harsh, but when I read your posts, I assumed that you were a sub from your writing style and approach to relationships. It could very likely just be that you are questioning yourself right now, or depressed.

Part of what I offer to my sub (and what she hungers for) is strength and stability. She can flail at the end of her leash, but I am the post that is well grounded.

I would agree with the recommendation to spend some time finding yourself.
You are well spoken, and come across as quite intelligent. You are not afraid to look deeply into yourself to find your issues and resolve them.
Do that. Become a whole person who does not need to find a date just to go to an event. A sub will see that true inner strength and naturally gravitate to it...

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RE: Getting constructive feedback after rejection. - 4/14/2008 3:35:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: chamberqueen

what men love most is for a woman to need them, what men hate most is for a woman to need them.  It is a true paradox.  It makes it impossible for a woman to know the right balance in how needy to seem. 

Spot on!
This is THE essential paradox for a slave/submissive to deal with.
And let's look a little more deeply at what a paradox is then....as it helps. Paradox....AGAINST WHAT WE KNOW........
Now (and I am speaking for myself here and also to help out MagicGoddess who opened the thread)......I just got out of a no win situation BECAUSE he wanted a truly really deeply submissive woman.....one who never questioned him or his right to ownership and one who never ever questioned what he wanted BUT this required a very great deal of submission indeed...so many scenes with him required begging, required oh please...required a deep level of negating myself in order to plaese him.....that got me weakened, that left me indeed negating myself and wanting, needing him...after all where was I when he wasn't there? where was I when he didn't need me? Where was I when he didn't want me? Do you follow the logic?
I never stpped out of my own integrity. I never stepped out of myself enough to adapt or adopt a ROLE which had a role distance. So all he got was my neediness I reckon. And THEN when I got distanced he recognised my independence and then accused me of topping him....'dissing him' weas his phrase.
See? A girl can't win when all the insight is with her.
He wouldn't take the feedback because he saw it as topping him.
So: my last communication...I say it's my last but he'll be back at texting me to one up me...my last communiction was: I'm looking deeply at why being the perfect submissive didn't work for you.
He he ho......let him go figure that one.



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RE: Getting constructive feedback after rejection. - 4/14/2008 3:39:41 AM   
Prinsexx


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ShadowKing


Part of what I offer to my sub (and what she hungers for) is strength and stability. She can flail at the end of her leash, but I am the post that is well grounded.



That's it also. perfect. A strong dominant is one who is absolutely assured of their position. A strong dominant in my psyche is also one who can at times admit, indeed say, they need their slave. What is it with the IRON BREW persoonas=real-doms-don't-need-their-subs-slaves-.....
that's what we are here for......there's NO weakness, no shame, no admission in a delaration of needing and yes loving the one who serves.



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