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Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:11:45 PM   
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Mine and Alandra's one requirement in play is to "not think and just react".  We are not to allow our mind to distract us.  Some times I find this more challenging than other times.  I have tried many of the techniques of meditation in order to accomplish this while playing; focusing on my breathing and visualizations are two techniques that have worked for me in the past. 

What are some other techniques that people use to empty their minds, especially during play?

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:15:36 PM   
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Personally I like the thoughts that race through my mind when mean and nasty things are done to me.  I most certainly have no desire to avoid that.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:28:55 PM   
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I make no judgement of Knight... But IF My Love was so easily distracted, I am sure I would take it to mean I was doing something...Not right. As lead in B/R I find I myself sometimes get distracted, But to think that my "doings" are being met with "hmmm, I think I'll take the trash out after..." I would be more than humiliated, I would be down right pissed.  It would also call in me a hearty amount of "pay attention to me!" as her youngun likes to exclaim. I would surely up the intensity till she no less than BEGGED me to stop. My distractions are of the nature in "What am I going to do next and how?" I may take time to consider what link to connect chains... etc.

Knight... You have a good thing going... Let it not become... "Distracted"

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:38:35 PM   
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My Sirs play is such that I can only react !   There is no extraneous thinking going on. Even when we play  in public, once we start I lose all awareness that there is anyone else in our universe.  Even if the intensity isn't that strong, the pain will keep my thoughts on the straight and narrow. And if I keep my eyes closed, the intensity ups a knotch.

one thing that helps initially is music- without singing. If there is singing i try to hear what is being sung. Music lets me chill out and focus on myself and what is going on.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:49:10 PM   
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   My mind tends to empty of daily concerns-things like how my job is going, what I had for lunch that dad tend to go right out the window. However, I do occasionally get filled with distracting physics thoughts-what force is that dragontail with, how much torque does that crop have, etc. Typically, those leave my head after a certain point as well.
  So I don't really need to clear my head.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:52:22 PM   
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   Typically, those leave my head after a certain point as well. 

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 5:54:55 PM   
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I have the opposite problem. I almost immediately am concentrating on exactly what is happening in the scene... then afterwards, I can't seem to pull my head out of my rear for about 30 min.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 6:43:54 PM   
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Sub space is what does it for me.  I have never gone so deep that I don’t react.  I still feel everything; I still wince and twitch and yelp and cry but the altered state allows me to simply accept what is happening and I stop wondering what’s coming next.   Not anticipating allows me to relax and just be there for him.
With S. it’s a little different.  His style is so frenetic that even if I tried I couldn’t keep up with whatever he might do next.   Even when he gets a sweet tone in his voice and says “OOOO, catize, looook what I found in the toy bag”  I keep my eyes closed and wait, knowing whatever it is, it’s gonna make me squeak.   I seldom tense against what is about to happen because I have no control over it. 
I’m not sure that any of the above is helpful to you.  It took time and experience to be able to live in the moment for play sessions.  I focus on the fact that I am there and helpless because I have agreed to be there.  Not much else to think about once that has sunk in!

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 6:44:11 PM   
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Laugh.  I find laughter can only be done if you're right in the moment- it's an instant and immediate reaction.

Kyra, I'm curious how you handled this requirement during your long term captivity scene?

PS I don't have this requirement or desire for those I play with in general and I've never had it specifically asked of myself either.  Some of my best scenes involve starting a train of thought and then leaving them alone to ponder and stew about it.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 6:44:48 PM   
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The only thing going through my mind is what my Dom is doing at the time.  Listening to Him, the sounds His actions are making, breathing Him in, following His voice and His commands.   The more I concentrate on Him, the more my mind empties of the rest of the world and the farther He can take me.  

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 6:47:16 PM   
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Sub space is what does it for me.  I have never gone so deep that I don’t react.  I still feel everything; I still wince and twitch and yelp and cry but the altered state allows me to simply accept what is happening and I stop wondering what’s coming next.   Not anticipating allows me to relax and just be there for him.
With S. it’s a little different.  His style is so frenetic that even if I tried I couldn’t keep up with whatever he might do next.   Even when he gets a sweet tone in his voice and says “OOOO, catize, looook what I found in the toy bag”  I keep my eyes closed and wait, knowing whatever it is, it’s gonna make me squeak.   I seldom tense against what is about to happen because I have no control over it. 
I’m not sure that any of the above is helpful to you.  It took time and experience to be able to live in the moment for play sessions.  I focus on the fact that I am there and helpless because I have agreed to be there.  Not much else to think about once that has sunk in!



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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 6:52:57 PM   
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My boy likes to be blindfolded and have music on.  Works for me too when I'm botoming, though I have to try harder to not be analitical (exactly how much do I Like or not like that cane?)

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 7:17:05 PM   
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my mind goes where it goes, all i do is leave any agendas at the door, along with as many outside influences as possible and just react as honestly to what happens between us and to me as is possible.

In a way it is a form of clearing the mind, and Master Andy does give me time to slough off the influences of the humdrum, to meditate if you will, before we start a session. We use the ease with which i can do that as an indicator of how we might play, given that i have physical and pain issues that have to be factored into every aspect of life.

There were times when i was less disabled when ad hoc sessions were more frequent, but now we have to recognise the limitations placed upon us. That is why i like a time of quietude, a time when i have disrobed and taken my place sitting at the Lorraine cross, when Andy will give me time to focus, find my inner space before our sessions begin.

i know it might sound a bit twee, all of that, but having that time has helped us to keep playing when otherwise i doubt we could.


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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 9:13:36 PM   
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Putting a requirement on  makes it tough to let go .Its like having high anticipation , and expectation s  they may also sometimes fail or fall short . Lady Paige advice is a good one and works well for me to just allow myself to float outside of myself ,removal of outside things  and removing sight and hearing helps .It also heightens to what is being  done . I know for me i can fall in that sub space trance like state  just with the feeling of rope and cuffs being applied .Try and hold no what is going to happen next or oooh i have heard that toy before and i know it hurts  and its coming type build up  ,breath and just be  sounds so simple and i know it is not .I learned from a person in special forces , and what they do to block out things or to take the pain with in themselves  .Its a sort of knowing and ability to ingest what is rather than did they say 50 hits and i am only on #5 .I veiw nothing when  that happens , i do breathe i do take in the energy given with each stroke , i try and empty my thoughts and live in the moment at hand  not anticipating  every next thing that is or may come .
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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 10:16:15 PM   
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What are some other techniques that people use to empty their minds, especially during play?

Knight's Kyra




When I taught the girl the art of pain, her having never experienced pain for pleasure I taught her how to disect the pain to it's components and find what she liked and then focus on that.

Example.

A spank is a Sting and then warmth. All too often a person will focus on the sting and the Negative part I taught her to ignore the sting and wait for the Warmth.

She says it has been effective as she went from a girl who thought all hitting was bad to someone who brings me the flogger and the strap when she is looking to be centered.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 10:22:47 PM   
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Personally I like the thoughts that race through my mind when mean and nasty things are done to me.  I most certainly have no desire to avoid that.


True. It quite ruins the fun if they stop paying attention. And screwing with someone's mind IS half the fun of a good scene.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 10:39:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

Mine and Alandra's one requirement in play is to "not think and just react".  We are not to allow our mind to distract us.  Some times I find this more challenging than other times.  I have tried many of the techniques of meditation in order to accomplish this while playing; focusing on my breathing and visualizations are two techniques that have worked for me in the past. 

What are some other techniques that people use to empty their minds, especially during play?

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Thinking of the colors that you are seeing as you react helps shut the mind off and allows you to just react to what is being done with no outside thought.......it is a meditation technique .. used to control pain but works well for just turning the world off and experiencing what you are feeling and nothing more.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/30/2008 10:49:34 PM   
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Thinking of the colors that you are seeing as you react helps shut the mind off and allows you to just react to what is being done with no outside thought.......it is a meditation technique .. used to control pain but works well for just turning the world off and experiencing what you are feeling and nothing more.


Ohhhh I like this!  As I said, I have a hard time not analyzing when I'm bottoming.  Now I need to decide who I want to ask to top me so I can try it!

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/31/2008 2:10:54 AM   
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Chanting. We (members of my tribe) teach chanting "now" every time the flogger impacts or whatever. "Love and power" is another one. You can chant whatever you want, though.

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RE: Emptying Your Mind in Play - 3/31/2008 3:24:37 AM   
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This is a great question...it's something I do regularly with My slave becasue his work life is so stressed. I want his mind to be clear and relaxed when we play. Generally I blindfold him and lightly caress his body with a feather or tissue, while speaking to him in a low voice and doing some relaxation visuals (the colors are one). Or, if I'm in a naughtier mood, I'll engage in some light ass play. That always clears his mind!

I like the idea of chanting, though...may have to try that one.

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