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It would be easy to take over the world - 3/29/2008 5:48:51 PM   
cyberdude611


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I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.
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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/29/2008 6:48:34 PM   
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Ever take a look at that nighttime map of the world?  The North Koreans have been doing their part to stop so-called "global warming" by leaving their lights perpetually off.  Maybe they should get an award.

Better yet, I'm selling carbon indulgences, er, carbon credits on their behalf.   For a small broke's commission, of course.  Like P.T. Barnum said, a fool is born every minute.  I should clean up.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/29/2008 8:48:42 PM   
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Workers in Phoenix turned out the lights in all downtown city-owned buildings for one hour.


Why were the lights even on in city buildings at 8pm on a Saturday?

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/29/2008 8:50:21 PM   
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Ever take a look at that nighttime map of the world?  The North Koreans have been doing their part to stop so-called "global warming" by leaving their lights perpetually off.  Maybe they should get an award.

Better yet, I'm selling carbon indulgences, er, carbon credits on their behalf.   For a small broke's commission, of course.  Like P.T. Barnum said, a fool is born every minute.  I should clean up.

He never said that quote. Look it up.


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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/29/2008 8:54:24 PM   
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It was "There's a sucker born every minute".

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 5:09:55 AM   
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only 1 point?  hmm

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 6:15:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.

cd:
What do you figure the average IQ is of those scientist who believe in "global warming"?
Do you suppose that it would be higher or lower than the average IQ of those who sent us to Iraq on a pack of lies?
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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 6:46:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.


You should get out of your cocoon a little more cyberdude. No scientist actually says that climate change is down to humans, they say the probability it is.

If you have eyes and have a modicum of travel under your belt, you will see the devastating impact humans are having on the planet, climate change or not. There is little doubt that humans are causing the deforestation of the planet and increasing desertification of land and eroding fertile land to the point it becomes useless. Many peoples around the world are already being affected by an increase in droughts, a rise in sea levels and lower crop yields. You are cocooned in the luxury of a developed country where you can wank over a centrefold while stuffing yourself with a burger and for the moment ignore the over harvesting of the planet. If you think that such despoilation of our habitat is not going to affect us ether directly by the degradation of our immediate environment or indirectly through climate change, you are an ostrich of the first order.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 6:51:12 AM   
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You are cocooned in the luxury of a developed country where you can wank over a centrefold while stuffing yourself with a burger



Porn and burgers eh....I knew they had it good over there, but not that good.........if the rest of the world finds out about these little luxuries, they'll have a lot more than the Mexicans trying to get in....

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 10:24:33 AM   
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If it was that easy to take over the world then someone would have done it by now, or maybe they have and you don’t know it yet? Exxon mobile perhaps? It’s good to know you have your pom poms out and are helping them fight the shaky science with a spear of truth and righteousness.

Yep the world is gullible indeed, will you still be looking the other way when they ask you to tattoo their corporate insignia onto your offspring’s heads? You might as well; nothing to loose now.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 1:10:44 PM   
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If it was that easy to take over the world then someone would have done it by now, or maybe they have and you don’t know it yet? Exxon mobile perhaps?



There is a fair amount of evidence that suggests it has either happened already, or is so far along as to be irreversible. Central bankers are the most frequently attributed group doing this. With quotes like this from Cecil Rhodes its easy to understand how many are of this opinion:

"Our goal is to gradually absorb the wealth of the world."

Be well, live free,

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 1:21:34 PM   
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There is a fair amount of evidence that suggests it has either happened already, or is so far along as to be irreversible. Central bankers are the most frequently attributed group doing this. With quotes like this from Cecil Rhodes its easy to understand how many are of this opinion:


It's funny that when the science becomes so strong that it can't be questioned they look for another angle of attack such as apathy. In this case 'we can't change anything so counting carbon is pointless anyway.' type talk.

Remember there is no medical proof that smoking while pregnant gives your unborn child halitosis.




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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 1:26:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.


You should get out of your cocoon a little more cyberdude. No scientist actually says that climate change is down to humans, they say the probability it is.

If you have eyes and have a modicum of travel under your belt, you will see the devastating impact humans are having on the planet, climate change or not. There is little doubt that humans are causing the deforestation of the planet and increasing desertification of land and eroding fertile land to the point it becomes useless. Many peoples around the world are already being affected by an increase in droughts, a rise in sea levels and lower crop yields. You are cocooned in the luxury of a developed country where you can wank over a centrefold while stuffing yourself with a burger and for the moment ignore the over harvesting of the planet. If you think that such despoilation of our habitat is not going to affect us ether directly by the degradation of our immediate environment or indirectly through climate change, you are an ostrich of the first order.


They say is probibly is? Yet, they are trying to pass laws to stop something they think might be a cause? Do you have a link where they admit they are not positive that humans are the main cause of global warming?

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 1:34:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.


You should get out of your cocoon a little more cyberdude. No scientist actually says that climate change is down to humans, they say the probability it is.

If you have eyes and have a modicum of travel under your belt, you will see the devastating impact humans are having on the planet, climate change or not. There is little doubt that humans are causing the deforestation of the planet and increasing desertification of land and eroding fertile land to the point it becomes useless. Many peoples around the world are already being affected by an increase in droughts, a rise in sea levels and lower crop yields. You are cocooned in the luxury of a developed country where you can wank over a centrefold while stuffing yourself with a burger and for the moment ignore the over harvesting of the planet. If you think that such despoilation of our habitat is not going to affect us ether directly by the degradation of our immediate environment or indirectly through climate change, you are an ostrich of the first order.


They say is probibly is? Yet, they are trying to pass laws to stop something they think might be a cause? Do you have a link where they admit they are not positive that humans are the main cause of global warming?


If those that argue that humans are causing harmful climate change are wrong, they will just look stupid. The world would also be a better environment in which to live with the changes they advocate, which wouldn't be detrimental to anyones economy, though detrimetnal to some special interst groups. If those that advocate that humans are causing climate are right and nothing is done about it, we are all fucked.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier#

On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/30/2008 10:40:45 PM   
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There are again two sides.

Global temperatures are largely regulated by the balance of energy absorbed from the Sun vs the energy emitted. This is the largest single factor that affects the climate globally.

We humans occupy the skin of this planet. Very little we can do can have any significant effect on the global temperature. What happens is that we might get warmer in the areas we inhabit, but the fact still remains that each year we recieve X amount of energy from the sun and we emit X amount of enregy at the same time.

The specific balance of these two factors is what makes our lives possible, and is pretty difficult to manipulate.

Now with global warming they are talking surface temperatures, and on an average basis, because we know they vary.

Now we could cloud up the atmosphere to the point where we become like Venus, but that does not change the energy balance. It might get hotter on the surface, but all we really do is scorch ourselves. The fact of the matter is, if global warming is a reality, there will be plenty of water around in which to cool one's self.

But on the other hand we got some other factors. We are taking things out of the ground and burning them at an unprecedented rate. And everythig we do makes heat. Even your AC unit, it does not destroy heat it pumps it outside, along with the heat it makes on it's own. In fact there is heat involved in generating the electricity to run it in the first place. Everything we do involves heat, even nuclear reactions power steam generators.

Everything you do makes heat, even if it is to cool something. Every time you move your body makes heat, sometimes even when you just think ! Even putting a bowl of Jello in the fridge makes heat, you open the door and the compressor soon kicks on.

Now multiply that by how many people there are in the world.

I used to poopoo the idea, but knowing what I know now, I am listening. I see no proof, in fact I have seen evidence to the contrary, but I can't say that we shouldn't be going through a cooling period and Man is interfering with that.

All I know is this, all the studies I've read all have one thing in common if they cover this point, CO2 levels are rising. Alot.

This would cause a blanket effect such as Venus is going through right now, it would change the climate drastically. But if it increases the temperature at the surface, the core will cool down. See there is a law of nature, planets are adibiatic, that is they do not gain or lose heat. As long as the orbit is the same, it will equalize at a certain temperature, it's an equilibrium sort of. Yes there are variances, but in that respect they are minor,

What we must concern ourselves with are the surface conditions. And with that, and the immensity of the human race, I simply can't dismiss the idea anymore the we indeed do harm the environment.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just stop ? But I have to get to work.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/31/2008 2:15:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: orfunboi

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

I swear the average IQ of the human race must be losing points with each year...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/world_lights_out

If a select group of people can mobilize billions of people using shaky science like they have with this global warming scam...humanity is doomed.

As Vladimir Lenin used to say....'a lie told often enough becomes the truth.'

And people wonder how so many Nazis could commit such horrific acts. If you have a leadership convincing enough, people will respond in mass to that authority. I guess it's true that only 10% of the human population are "leaders." The rest are followers.


You should get out of your cocoon a little more cyberdude. No scientist actually says that climate change is down to humans, they say the probability it is.

If you have eyes and have a modicum of travel under your belt, you will see the devastating impact humans are having on the planet, climate change or not. There is little doubt that humans are causing the deforestation of the planet and increasing desertification of land and eroding fertile land to the point it becomes useless. Many peoples around the world are already being affected by an increase in droughts, a rise in sea levels and lower crop yields. You are cocooned in the luxury of a developed country where you can wank over a centrefold while stuffing yourself with a burger and for the moment ignore the over harvesting of the planet. If you think that such despoilation of our habitat is not going to affect us ether directly by the degradation of our immediate environment or indirectly through climate change, you are an ostrich of the first order.


They say is probibly is? Yet, they are trying to pass laws to stop something they think might be a cause? Do you have a link where they admit they are not positive that humans are the main cause of global warming?


If those that argue that humans are causing harmful climate change are wrong, they will just look stupid. The world would also be a better environment in which to live with the changes they advocate, which wouldn't be detrimental to anyones economy, though detrimetnal to some special interst groups. If those that advocate that humans are causing climate are right and nothing is done about it, we are all fucked.
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/science/topics/globalwarming/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier#

On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is "unequivocal," and that human activity has "very likely" been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had "likely" played a role.



Lol. The United Nations? There's a reputable organization. I am surprised they haven't blamed global warming on the Jews.

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RE: It would be easy to take over the world - 3/31/2008 4:48:38 PM   
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Lol. The United Nations? There's a reputable organization. I am surprised they haven't blamed global warming on the Jews.



Masternslave:

Why would you think the U.N would blame the Jews for global warming?
thompson

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