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MidMichCowboy -> How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:20:41 PM)

Have you ever been haunted by a dream? One that makes you wonder if it’s a glimpse into the future or a fantasy that can never come true? I am currently haunted by such a recurring dream. It’s so real I can’t believe it. When I wake up, its as if the tastes, smells and touches are still there.
 
I'm very much a skeptic, but what could cause this dream? Is it just some unacknowledged fantasy?
 
The lady in the dream is not like those I've been attracted to in the past, not my type if you will. Neither are the feelings, what I've thought I was searching for.
 
So what part of the subconscious does this spring from? Its time to put this dream to rest. How does one get rid of something like this?




Shawn1066 -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:24:24 PM)

I personally think dreams are gibberish.  Yeah, you can find all sorts of symbolism within them...but again, I just think most dreams are gibberish.  It's like all sorts of wants, images, and memories fused together without any real rhyme or reason, imo.  The fun thing about symbolism is it doesn't necessarily mean anything at all.  If you look at something long enough...you'll see what you want to see in it.

DV's Fox




chamberqueen -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:27:02 PM)

It has been said that dreams are like the filing cabinet of the mind, sorting pieces of information that we've taken in and putting them to memory.  You can sometimes have input to your dreams, such as thinking about something right before you go to sleep, and times when you are almost awake when you can actually influence the way that your dream goes.

It could be that your mind is telling you about something you've been wanting though all meanings may not be strictly literal.  For instance, even though a woman I still dream sometimes that I am in a man's form.  The woman you see in your dreams may not look like your ideal but may embody some of the qualities, or it could be your subconscious's way of telling you to broaden your ideas of what would make you happiest.




BitaTruble -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:29:01 PM)

I would venture to guess it may stem from a hidden desire. Have you thought about exploring it? If the lady is someone whom you know in real life, is it possible to contact her and let her know you've been dreaming about her? She would probably be flattered 'cuz, you know, you're kinda cute. [;)] If she's a stranger, then my guess would be she's probably epitomizing something for which you long but don't have a clear picture of at this time in which case, internal reflection and absolute honesty with your self-analysis may be a path which can lead you to dispel the dreams if they are disturbing to you. If they're not particularly disturbing, but perhaps just uncomfortable, don't do anything about them. Just let them be and see what happens. You may find they resolve themselves over time or come to a conclusion which gives you closure.

Celeste




heartcream -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:32:18 PM)

There are some cultures (I could go research it if I had to) that believe that dreams are the real thing. They get together and tell each other their dreams and make vital decisions for their community based on them.

I feel dreams are there to help process and understand all a human has to process/understand. The sub conscious is more powerful these days than the conscious mind, so that will tell you plenty.

I would suggest lying down and try to go into the feelings the dream is triggering in you, where ever they lead and I bet you will gain some insight. No matter what those feelings are-- annoyance that you are dreaming of a woman who is not your type, the frustration of wanting to dream about the woman who is your type, and on and on like that. It will allow you to possibly see where you are holding judgements in place. Maybe one could be something like, "I cant even dream of the woman I want so how am I ever going to really find her?" Or, "My preferences must be wrong since my dreams are telling me otherwise." It can then be reversed, "I no longer believe my preferences are wrong, I know what I prefer and I fully support myself in finding it/her."




bipolarber -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:55:49 PM)

heartcream, I think you are thinking of the Australian Aborigines. They have both "The Dance" and the use of dreams as their way of keeping the world turning.

I tend to have precognative dreams. (I know none of you will believe that, but I can only state the facts) Several times in my life I have had repeadative dreams that would later come true. Usually, they were forshadowing some major emotional high or low... losses of family menbers, meeting my wife to be, or certain ecstatic nights spent in the company of lovers. It's only happened perhaps five or six times in the last 30 years.

So, who knows, MMC, maybe this is something that is on the horizon for you.

Good luck with it, in any case.




ownedgirlie -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 1:57:02 PM)

I find my dreams to be very symbolic and influenced by what is going on in my life.  There are some dreamwork books you can pick up, but I found when I either wrote my dreams out or spoke them out (either to myself or someone else), I could very often relate them to something occuring that I am working out.

I did have one recurring nightmare ever since I was extremely young, and it was so vivid, so painful (physically), and so traumatic that I would wake up in anxiety attacks.  It seems when life was most out of control, I would have this dream.  My Master worked me out of that dream and I haven't had it in about 2 years.

One of the things that really influences my dreams is to determine where my thoughts are as I am going to bed and falling asleep.  If I am worried or stressed or thinking something of a negative nature, I am more apt to have a bad or stressful dream.  If I direct my thoughts to something positive and/or peaceful, I either don't dream at all or have a pretty good dream.

I suggest considering what your thoughts are prior to having this dream, and how it relates to what is happening in your world  Maybe there is a pattern that you haven't recognized.




brightspot -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:07:59 PM)

Yes, I have a number of recurring dreams
or dream themes.
I find them fascinating, some it is very clear
the message it gives me.
Regardless, I love my dreams right now as
nearly every night my Mother who passed
to the other side last November comes and
I can see, feel, smell and interact with her.[:)]
 
Missy.




MidMichCowboy -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:09:19 PM)

All the replies have been very thoughtful. I thank you for them. I do not know anyone like the lady in the dreams. If I did, trust me, I would track her down and ask her what the hell she is doing in my head.
As much as I claim to be a logical person in charge of my own thoughts, I do not control these dreams. I actually try to fight them. In some ways they are like nightmares because it points out the pain and lack of completeness in my life. Its taken me back to a time when for answers, my friends led me from a sweat lodge to a bluff overlooking the Missouri River. I don't control these dreams, they really do haunt me. I wish I could wake up from them, but I can't. I wish I could stop them, but again, I can't.
 
BitaTruble, thanks for the complement. You are a gorgeous lady yourself. I'd like to thank all of you  for your comments. I will think on what has been said. Maybe logic does not have the answer to everything.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:10:17 PM)

sleeping is my favorite thing because of dreaming.  i can actually control what happens in my dreams at times.  sometimes its just so fucked up and interesting.  other times it feels like deja vu and i know what will happen next.

when i was younger what i dreamed actually happened in real life.  almost exactly as the dream itself.  premonition i think they call it.  i think it was caused by all the surgeries i had as a child.  which took major effect on my brain.  it hasnt happened since i was about 25ish.




cjan -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:20:35 PM)

There seem to be as many interpretations of dreams as there are those who try to interpret them. There has been so much witten on dreams and much of it is available online. Don'tcha just loooove Google ?

But remember, as Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar", but sometimes it's not.




petpete -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:39:33 PM)

i have heard much about dreams and i think at times they can have some interpretation.. (that's at least what i heard from my mum.) What pisses me really off is when i have to wake up of a "wet dream"..........




Arrrchibald -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:54:38 PM)

I don't find them very useful.  I have good dreams when I have a good day, and bad dreams when I have a bad day. 

Not the biggest breakthrough in psychology IMO. 




domahpet -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 2:59:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MidMichCowboy

 Its taken me back to a time when for answers, my friends led me from a sweat lodge to a bluff overlooking the Missouri River. I don't control these dreams, they really do haunt me. I wish I could wake up from them, but I can't. I wish I could stop them, but again, I can't.
 


if you know this, you already know whats up




khem -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 3:05:41 PM)

They have done studies that sumliminal information (or information you get on a day to day basis  that never comes into consciousness) can appear in dreams.  I'm not sure I can track down the study itself, but this made me start thinking the newagey crap about dreams might actually have some substance.  In other words, you think more than you think and sometimes it omes out when your brain relaxes into dreaming.   In that respect, dreams can be seen as windows into subconscious ideas and experiences that you would not normally have access to.

(if this sort of thing interests you, I'm reading this book called "The User Illusion" that talks a lot about all this)




RCdc -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 3:12:03 PM)

Dreams have as much power as you allow them to have.  I often liken them to fantasies.  You can dream things into being, you can make dreams become reality.
 
the.dark.




Maya2001 -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 8:07:10 PM)

most dreams I have little to no recall of
some are very vivid that I could recall very minute details months /years later, others could recall parts but the rest of disintegrated within minutes of waking

I have had dreams that were suppressed memories of my early childhood from around when I was 2 years old, because of the vividness  of ..  I found myself having to ask family members  questions about the dreams to find out if the dream were actually reality based

I have had dreams that were premonitions of events that would occur, very minor ... example car breaking down on a trip lol  my ex asked me not to tell him about my dreams anymore after having 2 such events occur within  the same month... though extremely rare for this type  to occur.

Some can seem totally wierd but so real at the same time  and makes absolutely no sense,  one I still recall some 40 yeats later

Nightmares are most often triggered by some event that has me feel threatened ... though  occasionally some occur out of the blue, most are the same and related to a past event but in the nightmare becomes a bit more twisted

Occasionally have nightmares that disintegrate as soon as I wake up so I have no idea what happened screaming  but can leave me stressed, shaken with heart pounding a couple hours later too uneasy to go back to sleep.

I have had one dream where I recalled a face but no details of the events of the dream a few years later was somewhere and seen that person ....no contact was ever made ...but it was an extremely eerie feeling especially as your mind is going clickety-click to recall where you have seen the person before, I was not in a area where I would have likely run into someone I knew and finally to realize it was someone you had seen in a dream... because nothing happened(which makes it even more of a mindbender...as in what was the purpose of dreaming about this person )... it was several years ago...I had forgotten all about that event until thinking about it now.  Even if I did see that person again now  .. so many years have gone by that I highly doubt I would even notice that person today never mind connect the one time dream image to him.

I don't think there is any easy explanation and even many of my vividd dreams nightmares seemed to have no foundation

But we are not alone as humans dreaming ...animals dream too,  I have watched an old dog happily suckling in its sleep, another happily running and woofing and another squealing and struggling in terror






LadyHibiscus -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 8:17:06 PM)

Many dreams are just the brain entertaining itself while you're not around to bring in new intel.  I do have lots of recurring dream themes, and I can do some lucid dreaming, too, but only rarely do I think a dream is an important subconscious message.  I think this is one of them for you, and you should explore it.  Maybe you're ignoring something really obvious in your waking life and your other brain wants you to pay attention.




stella41b -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 10:40:17 PM)

I strongly believe that there's a sort of connection or relationship between dreams, sleep, thought, death and the spiritual world. In fact it's something I'm sure of.

Quite often I have dreams and visions, some are recurring, some are precognitive, but you know it's one thing to have dreams and visions and another to be able to interpret those dreams and visions correctly.

Quite a lot of people receiving psychiatric treatment also have dreams and visions, but not necessarily the right interpretations.

A recurring dream therefore can be many things. It can be a situation or a specific problem you are trying to resolve, it could be a message from the spiritual world, it could be a subconscious wish or hope, or it could be precognitive and indicate that something is about to happen. This something which is about to happen may require the fulfillment of a condition for a particular meeting or event to take place.




OTKkindaGirl -> RE: How powerful are dreams? (3/23/2008 10:48:25 PM)

i've heard tale that "a dream is a wish your heart makes".  and sometimes this is true.

i know that visions are also probable to come in dreamlike states and sometimes even in the form of dreams themselves. 

just depends on the power within yourself,  your subconscious, and your psysche in order to correlate it.

and other times, they are just nightmares.




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