RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection.

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marieToo -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/15/2008 2:27:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I am his mentor, showing him what he is missing. I am his father,. showing him women. I am his idol, showing him how if he could just take it, what he would have. I am the alpha and leader of the group and he learns the pecking order.. That is quick and dirty, there is alot more than that. I am, and they want to understand and emulate that as much as you do, and you live it. I hope that makes any kind of sense marieToo. Ron I'm sure it will, Ron....after I down a six-pack.

Griswold -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/15/2008 9:09:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marieToo quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster You guys all seem to be fixating on one kind of cuck relationship I don't think anyone is fixating necessarily. Maybe this type of cuckold fantasy is the most common. There is a lot of it in the "ask a mistress" forum. quote: and forgetting about cases where the bull is dominant and BOTH halves of the cuck couple are submissive. That's not so uncommon, and in those cases it's NOT all about "to serve the female." I think there could be many variations of 'cuck couples' who are either domme/sub, sub/sub, switch/switch, or whatever. From what I've read so far from those who have experienced this, there doesn't seem to be any substantial male-to-male connection going on regardless of the orientations of the participants. So, it does seem to revert to the female, and her respective relationships with each of the men. Any scenario wherein which I eventually ended up in a cuckold situation with a loving woman....that'd rock. (If she was overwhelmingly wealthy....that'd be all good with me as well). (38DD's....). (Hates to have me clean anything at all....insists on me having a cold beer the second I walk in through the front door).... These are a few of my favorite things [:D] [8D] [;)]

MsBearlee -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/17/2008 9:36:31 AM)
Sooooooooooo…I’m curious about this Cuckolding. I get that it might be humiliating, but are there really that many guys who want ‘their lady’ fucked by other men? What do they get out of it, besides humiliation? Anything? A three-sum? Do most cuckolded men take sloppy seconds…orally? Or is it just the stories they like to hear, after their lady does another guy? Is the reality as good as the fantasy? Is there a connection between cuckolding and bisexuality? I do understand the humiliation part…but this seems to tread on so much more. Safety, for one thing; unless the three are all good friends (which might fuck up the humiliation-part, huh?) how could one possibly enjoy the clean-up; there would be no male-taste unless done bareback. What’s up with that? I have so many questions… B

Stephann -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/17/2008 10:01:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsBearlee Sooooooooooo…I’m curious about this Cuckolding. I get that it might be humiliating, but are there really that many guys who want ‘their lady’ fucked by other men? What do they get out of it, besides humiliation? Anything? A three-sum? Do most cuckolded men take sloppy seconds…orally? Or is it just the stories they like to hear, after their lady does another guy? Is the reality as good as the fantasy? Is there a connection between cuckolding and bisexuality? I do understand the humiliation part…but this seems to tread on so much more. Safety, for one thing; unless the three are all good friends (which might fuck up the humiliation-part, huh?) how could one possibly enjoy the clean-up; there would be no male-taste unless done bareback. What’s up with that? I have so many questions… B Everything you've suggested can happen. I don't think they necessarily happen in even the majority of couples, though. I think the Bull/Cuck situation is a loose term to define a situation that may have several drives behind it. Bob works full time, and his wife is doing her personal trainer, pool man, and his best friend, and Bob knows about it... but doesn't say anything about it, isn't quite a cuck. Yet he's maintaining a relationship with a woman for any number of reasons; it might be too expensive to divorce her, he might be afraid to admit he likes it, he might just be too busy with other women himself to deal with the issue. Obviously, in this case, it's unlikely there are any latent bisexuality issues at work. I'd say the man 'cleaning' the woman isn't likely to be a regular, common activity (even if it's an often touted fantasy.) It's on par with a man who fantasizes about forced cock-sucking, and 'acts it out' with a dominatrix, but having to please her strap on. He doesn't really want to be with a man, he just wants to fantasize about being forced to. In a cuck situation, the cuck might fantasize about all the wild things he might do with his wife after the Bull has left, but normally (I think) it ends there. For my part, I enjoy sharing my slave. I'm certainly not humiliated when someone else uses her; if anything, it makes me feel strong knowing that I own such a desirable creature, and that no matter who uses her, she's still owned by me. A cuck might not own his wife, but she does wear his ring (well, in concept) and it's his wife that men desire. It can be similar to the sense that a submissive has when they have a very desirable, well known dominant. It isn't pride in himself, but rather pride in being with someone that special/desirable. And finally, I love knowing that my girl is a slut, not a lady. It makes sex with her even more enjoyable for me; and other men being with her is a representation of that powerful sexuality. These are just things I know I enjoy with my slave; I imagine even cuck men might feel some or all of these things as well. I hope that sheds a little light. Stephan

MsBearlee -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/17/2008 12:29:13 PM)
It does, Stephen; thank you. Actually, it was yet another way to look at things...always a good idea! Beverly

Griswold -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/17/2008 5:04:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsBearlee Sooooooooooo…I’m curious about this Cuckolding. I get that it might be humiliating, but are there really that many guys who want ‘their lady’ fucked by other men? What do they get out of it, besides humiliation? Anything? A three-sum? Do most cuckolded men take sloppy seconds…orally? Or is it just the stories they like to hear, after their lady does another guy? Is the reality as good as the fantasy? Is there a connection between cuckolding and bisexuality? I do understand the humiliation part…but this seems to tread on so much more. Safety, for one thing; unless the three are all good friends (which might fuck up the humiliation-part, huh?) how could one possibly enjoy the clean-up; there would be no male-taste unless done bareback. What’s up with that? I have so many questions… B (Fortunately for everyone here...I actually know everything). To simplify it...it's your (the mans) own private porn show. But that minimizes the kink and other aspects. Yes, we love to hear stories....every woman knows that men love to talk about, think about, imagine, live in a fantasy of, sex. Why do you think 976 lines make so much money? How many have you seen advertising for women to call in looking for men to talk them through sexual adventures? (Would that be a fair indication of how much men love to listen to women talk about prurient interests?). Sexual humiliation is just one aspect....it really doesn't matter all that much what the woman is talking about (so long as it's sexually related)...men love to hear womens voices...it's a natural human reaction....unless it's about the lawn or some electrical issue with the microwave not working...we love to hear you talk. Talking about sex....well...it's just candy :)

liks2plzlf -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/18/2008 5:15:22 PM)
If you type "cuckold", in the user name box, there are a hell of alot of men seeking it. If it is the subs desire, it would seem to be topping from the bottem. If it is the Domina's desire, and it wasn't a hard limit for the sub, I guess thats just the way it will be. There are a number of women on the boards, who seem to really enjoy it. Kinda like having your cake and eating to. I have noticed many more women's profiles, are asking for cucks, or at least have it in their, curious about lists. Sure has been a popular subject lately

MidMichCowboy -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/19/2008 2:10:19 AM)
I can only relate from my experience. I've been the "bull" a few times for ladies I knew. They were primarily dominant in their relationship. The guy got off on the humiliation of watching me use and dominate their woman. The woman let control go. Me, I will admit to loving "taking" another mans woman (damn barbarian). Its an intense time, very raw. Its the first time I saw a man, tied in a chair, cum without touching his cock as I was spanking his woman (who usually controlled him). I don't claim to understand it.

MsBearlee -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/20/2008 7:47:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf If you type "cuckold", in the user name box, there are a hell of alot of men seeking it. If it is the subs desire, it would seem to be topping from the bottem. If it is the Domina's desire, and it wasn't a hard limit for the sub, I guess thats just the way it will be. There are a number of women on the boards, who seem to really enjoy it. Kinda like having your cake and eating to. I have noticed many more women's profiles, are asking for cucks, or at least have it in their, curious about lists. Sure has been a popular subject lately likes2…I must say I feel quite strongly in opposition to what you continually insist is the case for D/s relationships. I realize many people have different ideas about what ‘IS’…and it’s fine if we disagree, but I just want to let others know that some of us believe differently than what you are saying. True, many men are interested in Cuckolding. Many women are, as well. Exactly what IS cuckolding…differs from couple to couple; and that’s fine too, isn’t it? Yes, of course it is. The thing that I keep hearing from you is that if the submissive enjoys anything, including cuckolding,…it must be bad or wrong that he does. If a submissive or slave likes something, or worse desires it…he must be topping from the bottom if he asks for it. I cannot tell you how strongly I disagree with you here. While I enjoy submissive men a great deal, and while I enjoy tormenting him in my own way, I also understand we live in the real world and the real world is ‘win/win’. likes2, if my guy wasn’t having fun as well, I run the ‘risk’ of loosing him…and while a lot of Dommés feel submissive men are a dime a dozen, the good ones are not; I like to keep my guys around. Especially if I like them! I believe you are doing yourself a disservice insisting that if you like something…it can’t be submissive. Sheeshhhhhhhhhhhhh, lighten up! Ya know, the whole idea of coupling-up IS to have your cake and eat it too! Isn’t it? Personally, I look for a guy who is comfortable telling me what he likes too…I’d enjoy fitting it in, giving him those things from time to time…rewarding him, perhaps, surprising him other times. Do you really believe a woman does not like to see her man happy? If you do, you’ve been reading too many books; comic books, no doubt. My $0.02

Stephann -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/21/2008 6:10:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: liks2plzlf If you type "cuckold", in the user name box, there are a hell of alot of men seeking it. If it is the subs desire, it would seem to be topping from the bottem. If it is the Domina's desire, and it wasn't a hard limit for the sub, I guess thats just the way it will be. There are a number of women on the boards, who seem to really enjoy it. Kinda like having your cake and eating to. I have noticed many more women's profiles, are asking for cucks, or at least have it in their, curious about lists. Sure has been a popular subject lately I don't really see the sub's desire for cuckholding to be topping from the bottom. It's an interest, and there's a mutual interest in that kink, great. Topping from the bottom is what I'd call a submissive trying to push the dominant into doing things they don't want to do, without regard for the dominant's desires. My slave enjoys anal sex. I don't care so much for it. If she was trying to push me to have it with her, and didn't care about how I felt, that would be topping from the bottom. To express her desire, whether or not I fulfill it, is just good communication. Stephan

slvemike4u -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/21/2008 9:50:28 PM)
Griswold you have done great work here

SensualReciprok8 -> RE: Cuckold-Cuck/Bull Connection. (3/22/2008 12:09:56 AM)
Thank you all for your contribution to this interesting subject, not experienced enough to voice my opinion, but.... I would have to ask, doesn't all of this depend on the three individuals, the dynamics of their intamacy with one another, and the willingness to please each other and/or themselves, during their sessions? Is this strictly the only interaction they all have with one another? Or is this a special scenario that comes to pass on occasions? If this is their lifestyle, only type of contact they each have with one another, then wouldn't the Dom/Domme be in charge of what was going to transpire, no matter what?

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