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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 2:07:17 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		Speaking for myself as well as the op....We are not out here to be treated like meat....It is difficult being eye candy. Just for once we would like to be valued for our brains.

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 2:09:17 PM   
Ostentatious


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Speaking for myself as well as the op....We are not out here to be treated like meat....It is difficult being eye candy. Just for once we would like to be valued for our brains.


Actually I'm fine with it in person with the right dom

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 2:38:01 PM   
MasterLDesade


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Status: offline 		Ostentatious , Greetings . I hear what you are saying &i invite you to check my profile as it is worded to stop any confusion re-same . Kirren knows & you express how long it takes to do an apprenticeship or training of a similar standard , quite true . Per say you were not exposed to the Pro-Domme you have been to see her style and was a first time walk up client , then all of your experiences are based on the Mistress/Master and the session to formulate their views and trust factors on B.D.S.M & if it is the door they wish to open . Not all in observation have the circumstances as yourself Ostentatious to really get to know what they are about to get into but choose to no matter how they enter this world . I and many others whom are Pro-Domm do not play or associate with "The Show Pony Scene " of  which we are Observant & Knowing as the Sex Industry go's through many levels of society , this factor would you not think limit your exposure to their knowing . I would ask you to walk through this door and expose yourself to " Aladdin's Cave " , after six years thinking a way i present the above for you to think about .
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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 2:46:16 PM   
Ostentatious


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ORIGINAL: MasterLDesade

Ostentatious , Greetings . I hear what you are saying &i invite you to check my profile as it is worded to stop any confusion re-same . Kirren knows & you express how long it takes to do an apprenticeship or training of a similar standard , quite true . Per say you were not exposed to the Pro-Domme you have been to see her style and was a first time walk up client , then all of your experiences are based on the Mistress/Master and the session to formulate their views and trust factors on B.D.S.M & if it is the door they wish to open . Not all in observation have the circumstances as yourself Ostentatious to really get to know what they are about to get into but choose to no matter how they enter this world . I and many others whom are Pro-Domm do not play or associate with "The Show Pony Scene " of  which we are Observant & Knowing as the Sex Industry go's through many levels of society , this factor would you not think limit your exposure to their knowing . I would ask you to walk through this door and expose yourself to " Aladdin's Cave " , after six years thinking a way i present the above for you to think about .
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I think your profile is great and I agree with you. 

This is REALLY not an attack on prodoms.  Make a seperate profile, put yourself in as a male sub from London England and look at the dommes that come up...I just think there should be an option where don't HAVE to see them if we don't WANT to.  It's just about choice.

I don't like the way you refer to the 'scene' as show pony though.  We have show pony clubs but they aren't the scene.  The scene is about people, making friends with out like-minded people and knowing they are there and you aren't a 'freak' for having your thoughts and feelings is really important.  Without my scene friends my first Ds relationship could have actually killed me.

I decline the idea of looking into finding a prodom because I want more than that kind of relationship, I seek something a little more intense!  Good luck to all who choose to walk into the cave though!

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 2:47:59 PM   
faerytattoodgirl


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I think there was another that said you had to be able to send her 50-100$ to even talk to her...



sigh nobody has ever offered to send me money....what do i have to do for that????i need money for a new passport!!!! and more time on WOW.




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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 3:05:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Speaking for myself as well as the op....We are not out here to be treated like meat....It is difficult being eye candy. Just for once we would like to be valued for our brains.


dammit *stops seeing Domiguy as eye candy and apprciates his brains*

nope cant do it, you are staying as photoless eye candy


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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 3:30:51 PM   
MasterLDesade


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Status: offline 		Ostentatious , Ah the complications of programming , and profiles , true a separation would stop this problem , funny enough it would help me to as this is not what i seek as well , so we are both caught up in this quandary .
I Tested The Water with my comment on the scene and you have quantified , the obvious steps you have taken from your first step into this world . As i stated in the sex industry there are many layers all of which pervade society in one way or another and one wished to see where you were at in your journey , this you have answered .  On the Pro-Domm thought , i was suggesting you deepen your association with these practitioners non-commercially , it is possible to have a D/S relationship for a pro-domm outside of work . Many of us have lifestyle slaves/submissive who have been with us for many a year permanently 24/7 & intensity well that is pretty full on for all involved & with that comes their learning .
I comment on your Training as it is showing in the way you hold yourself in conversation in good form . Health to you .
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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 4:09:32 PM   
Ostentatious


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ORIGINAL: MasterLDesade
 On the Pro-Domm thought , i was suggesting you deepen your association with these practitioners non-commercially , it is possible to have a D/S relationship for a pro-domm outside of work . Many of us have lifestyle slaves/submissive who have been with us for many a year permanently 24/7 & intensity well that is pretty full on for all involved & with that comes their learning .
I comment on your Training as it is showing in the way you hold yourself in conversation in good form . Health to you .
                   Regards
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Hiya again!  I think because I don't see myself as poly and also because of my social conditioning (which you've said we are all products of), I just can't see myself getting involved with a pro-dom on a personal level.  I think it's good to have friends and anyone who dismisses someone because of that would only be hurting themselves...  I stopped viewing someone I was beginning to find attractive as a potential partner when she went pro-dom.  I guess we all know what we can and can't cope with.  Some of best friends I've made are poly and some are partners of pro-doms but I just wonder how their jealousy levels and selfishness levels are so placid.  I just think it's not for me.

Health to you to all the way down there (geographically)



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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 5:32:58 PM   
MasterLDesade


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Status: offline 		Ostentatious ,  good points , Jealousy and selfishness are two son's of bitch's as per normal society conditioning today . Once i had learned to Master myself under instruction the two are not a problem for a well organized D/D Pro-Union , it has also helped that i have been in charge of South wing whilst my Partner was in control of The Locked Down Unit in over 14,800 odd hours together each shift same facility 6 years straight . A Master placid lol , i have a radar and a duty of Husbandry to my marriage , ask any married woman about radar they posses extraordinary ability's to spot " Those Women " . To test or challenge on the floor a Traditional Master face to face and placidity is not what you will find , but one your ability's to be tested instantaneously . 
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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 6:18:42 PM   
Aneirin


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Status: offline 		I am inclined to agree with Ostentatious, from time to time I have sought a Domme,(fascinating creatures), but have been dismayed at how many who have a profile on the UK side of things seem to be asking for money.

Now, I have no problem with pro whatever's, it is just not what I seek, not my choice and most of the profiles on this side do seem to be pro. with those who claim to be dominant. Rare is it that a real person arises who is like the rest of us, just here, seeking their counterpart. Not saying a pro is not real, just that as far as those who seek their opposite are concerned, a pro is not what they want, not their reality.

And no, I do not think pro dommes are prostitutes, what most offer is different in that they do not engage in sexual intercourse or other sexual act.They can be looked upon as fantasy realisation experts or even councillors,(wait for it...)

And in response to another saying this is yet another bitching thread which comes up from time to time, same ole same ole etc. If it is a constant annoyance, do you not think people, different people may well have a point.

A Pro domme told me once that there is a difference in pro dommes, those that are and those that think they are, realising this may be an easy way to make money, preying on a person's weaknesses.


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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 6:54:00 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

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ORIGINAL: Ostentatious


Thoughts/opinions...flame the heck out of me if needs be...



Flaming is NOT what I thought about doing to you after looking at your pictures.  Oh my.  It's hot in here.

edited because my brain is not working well for some reason. 


DANG!!  Thanks for sharing!

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 7:13:59 PM   
ShaktiSama


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Status: offline 		I agree, the OP is very photogenic.

Errr....what were we talking about again--?

Oh, right.  Pro dommes.  World needs more of 'em, says I.  Go prodies go. 

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 7:44:11 PM   
MasterLDesade


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Status: offline 		Aneirin , Ahem pray tell what part of my prior post did you not read . Here i am directly discussing all of your relevant points with the person involved and reaching mutual agreement upon such said matters . So where do you get off on telling me that i do not allow others to have a point , again refer to above and you will see all . And refrain from such unobservant diatribe .
As far as a Pro-Domm , 1 -you are not such a man , 2 -Quote not what others say but your own experience for all else is hearsay .
 You seem jaded to wards pro-domm's ,  "Sigh " yet you speak from a position of knowing , if you knew my friend you would not interrupt a polite , civil & understood conversation between myself and Ostentatious but " Heard " and observed the interaction and Topic problem solving finalizing in agreement on said subject matter at hand .

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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 8:36:51 PM   
Aneirin


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ORIGINAL: MasterLDesade

Aneirin , Ahem pray tell what part of my prior post did you not read . Here i am directly discussing all of your relevant points with the person involved and reaching mutual agreement upon such said matters . So where do you get off on telling me that i do not allow others to have a point , again refer to above and you will see all . And refrain from such unobservant diatribe .
As far as a Pro-Domm , 1 -you are not such a man , 2 -Quote not what others say but your own experience for all else is hearsay .
 You seem jaded to wards pro-domm's ,  "Sigh " yet you speak from a position of knowing , if you knew my friend you would not interrupt a polite , civil & understood conversation between myself and Ostentatious but " Heard " and observed the interaction and Topic problem solving finalizing in agreement on said subject matter at hand .

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I am very sorry, I was not aware that this was a private conversation between you and the OP and this a public forum too. It is a sore pity there is an 'add reply' button here at the end of the last thread for as if I were to know it were to cause you so much anguish at my words , I would not have bothered, my only thought were to add to the OP's observations as I would be inclined to agree with his initial post.

You seem to be of the assumption that I directed my words towards you, perhaps if you look back through the thread and read, you might discover to where I may have directed my words and reference to bitching about things, is not bitching about bitching bitching in itself? I would say to you, if you wish to undertake a private conversation with a person you do it in private via the  message function or else mind your manners with other posters on this forum.

Furthermore, reference to my words as diatribe, they are words as are yours, what you see as diatribe may very well be thought of yours, your answers are not the only answers to a question.

Pro -dommes, you know nothing of my experiences, so do not presume you do, friends I have of their type they know my thoughts and accept them, as my choice, as I accept them for their choice.

Kindest Regards,

Aneirin


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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/9/2008 9:49:25 PM   
MasterLDesade


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Status: offline 		Aneirin , Off Topic Discussion - a public forum in the message board section ........ Hmmm ....i am aware of time&Space . Nil anguish "sigh " amusement Yes . Direction well in your own words Quote " If it is a constant annoyance, do you not think people, different people may well have a point. " Full stop  , so you asked me " do you" , and in relevance to your post , i answered it hit your " G "  spot . " Bang My Head Against the Wall DooDah dooDah " in actual relevance to your " Private Message " theory that i am suddenly naked in a shower & not typing on my keyboard to 1,000's of world wide users FFS . Manners Fool are consistent with the fool & their lack of understanding . I neither stated nor postulated that my answers were the only correct one's , such utter crap , get a grip Plz , this seems to be a common saying on this site & advocates heated responces .
I promote the opposite so where is your common sense . Stated in my forum posts prior to this .
You agree with him ...... i agree with him And.......?
Where next ?
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RE: Pro-dom tick box - 3/10/2008 2:14:42 AM   
Aneirin


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Status: offline 		I will resist the temptation to engage you further in the disagreement you seek.

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