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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 12:54:12 AM   
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PaHunk, I don't know but that's the Massachusetts State House behind him it looks like to me.

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 7:12:09 AM   
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--i never knew what the sexual orientation was of the code breaker.  a gay man can be a threat -but in adifferent way.   an  example...i popped into myspace- one fills out a spam code to send.  well im getting all kinds of sexyladies imploring me to....  be spammed. 

the gaything-  i viewed is having the wiring reversed in the brain. i know alot of progress has been made.  but  not  to long ago i had 2 men in suits grill me. they seem to  think i have a gf.   im thinkin   didnt you pull  the file?    i  did not disclose my sexuality- simply cos i did not want to worry any action was homophobic.

ild be lost in a straight bar- all the signals.  ild accidently unknowingly  --signal- and it would start an arguament, i simply dont know that world. 

the gay world is vicious. looks are eveyrthing., everything is a 1 nighr...if you even GET the overnight!

i guess keeping to myself  is best.  last night i seen the movie semper fi. -it got me thinking  of how my late dad told me i was a disgrace to the family name, not fit to eat on the floor- and get out w/in 6mos. [ dating at 17, a 31 yr old biker druggie 6'5'' dude] well this year a gay guy died 35- his parents knew-  but they never talked and it is unfortionate. oh- on my dad- he did not kick me out- he remodlled the house so my space was bigger..... tho he was sad that his oldest went arye. my grandfather would not speakto me for 20 years.  he said cocksuckers arent welcome in this town.  but in his own way- he appreciated my wisdom. we both attended the family reunion- a huge break  thru. mom said  i was a gentleman.   tho we did not speak- i think we would have at the next one.  he opned a letter to my grandmother and read it- thats how he found out.  - i regret the years i could have learned from him- i truly do.   he would ask per family issues "what does roger think"... ild ask "what does grampa think"- each knowing we were on the same page!  im not sure if i was passed the patriark torch or not. tho my opinions are relevent. funny thing is his antigay pushed the others to accept me.  where as if he was nutreal it would not of.

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 7:22:24 AM   
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*hugs* hunk...

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 7:40:10 AM   
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I don't understand the discrimination against someone elses sexuality... it's just irrational.

Sorry you went through that man.


And I spotted the gay pride flag, but I've seen people holding those and burning them when news showed up at protests and marches with just as rediculous signs in their hand.

Googling though brings up http://www.bostonphoenix.com/pages/03709277.asp and it does indeed look like satire.

quote:

11:30 a.m.
Employing irony in the marriage debate Outside the State House, there are many more gay rights protesters than anti-gay marriage demonstrators. One of the anti-gay marriage proponents, Susie Hicks from Woburn, said this was because everyone thinks gay marriage is a "done deal." She was at the State House with her friend Angela Mitchell, also from Woburn. Mitchell held a sign that read WE WANT THE BAY STATE NOT THE GAY STATE, THAT WOULD MEAN A SAD STATE. Her sign was in sharp contrast to some of those held by gay marriage supporters that focus on gays who've made history such as Leonardo da Vinci, Alan Turing, who invented the computer, and Katherine Lee Bates, who wrote "America the Beautiful." The sign focusing on Turning, for example, reads: DESTROY THE COMPUTER! IT'S A HOMOSEXUAL INVENTION BY ALAN TURING. WHO CARES IF HE CRACKED THE GERMAN ENIGMA CODE AND WON WORLD WAR II. IT'S A HOMO'S DEVIL MACHINE. Tom Lang of Manchester by the Sea held one of the signs -- which have taken some viewers a few moments to figure out. "We're trying to show how important gay people are to the American culture," Lang explained. "We're not mental. We're not immoral. But we're important to society and interwoven into the tapestry of America."
— reported by Deirdre Fulton

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 8:16:14 AM   
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The sad fact is that most people tend to discriminate in some manner, Wkdshadow, whether that be regarding a person's sexuality, disability, their preferences generally speaking, disease/virus, or indeed, their ethnicity. Jane Elliott highlights it best insofar as spectators supporting those that discriminate by doing/saying nothing.

Hunk, it truly is a terrible shame when a family member chooses their pride over their love. Back in the day when I worked for social services, I used to attend, daily, a black man in his 30s who was in the final stages of aids. He had galloping scabies and community nurses refused to go into him b/c he was a paranoid schizophrenic. However, he was responsible and took his medications, was wasting away b/c the meals on wheels service he received did not really cater for a large man over 6' tall and of a different ethnicity, so he couldn't stomach the food they brought him. His family had disowned him, he'd contracted aids through a blood transfusion when he'd suffered an accident while on holiday. They reacted out of FEAR and not b/c they saw him as a lesser person which is something I feel important in motivation regarding any kind of seeming prejudice. I understand their fears, truly I do, I do not understand how they could allow those fears to focus their lives in such a way they could ostracise someone they dearly loved. The man I looked after for almost a year finally passed away, in hospital, with me there. To this day I remain angry for the injustice served to him by our professional services which clearly failed him.



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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 8:25:33 AM   
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Getting back to Turing; his part in cracking the decoding method of   the Enigma machine was not one only of pure intellect.
The Polish resistance captured a machine and had it smuggled to the UK. Similarly the UK Navy got one when a German U boat was captured after the captain did not "scuttle"
In a film in which this incident was covered it was the US Navy that got the job done. I have never heard it suggested that John Wayne was the captain but I could be wrong.
Had the US actually been involved in overt military activity at this time May 1941 I think, it is probable that John Wayne would single handedly have been giving the Jap a well deserved slap in Yap.

I know that may be considered controversial but I hope not insulting.



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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 12:30:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

--i never knew what the sexual orientation was of the code breaker.  a gay man can be a threat -but in adifferent way.   an  example...i popped into myspace- one fills out a spam code to send.  well im getting all kinds of sexyladies imploring me to....  be spammed. 

the gaything-  i viewed is having the wiring reversed in the brain. i know alot of progress has been made.  but  not  to long ago i had 2 men in suits grill me. they seem to  think i have a gf.   im thinkin   didnt you pull  the file?    i  did not disclose my sexuality- simply cos i did not want to worry any action was homophobic.

ild be lost in a straight bar- all the signals.  ild accidently unknowingly  --signal- and it would start an arguament, i simply dont know that world. 

the gay world is vicious. looks are eveyrthing., everything is a 1 nighr...if you even GET the overnight!

i guess keeping to myself  is best.  last night i seen the movie semper fi. -it got me thinking  of how my late dad told me i was a disgrace to the family name, not fit to eat on the floor- and get out w/in 6mos. [ dating at 17, a 31 yr old biker druggie 6'5'' dude] well this year a gay guy died 35- his parents knew-  but they never talked and it is unfortionate. oh- on my dad- he did not kick me out- he remodlled the house so my space was bigger..... tho he was sad that his oldest went arye. my grandfather would not speakto me for 20 years.  he said cocksuckers arent welcome in this town.  but in his own way- he appreciated my wisdom. we both attended the family reunion- a huge break  thru. mom said  i was a gentleman.   tho we did not speak- i think we would have at the next one.  he opned a letter to my grandmother and read it- thats how he found out.  - i regret the years i could have learned from him- i truly do.   he would ask per family issues "what does roger think"... ild ask "what does grampa think"- each knowing we were on the same page!  im not sure if i was passed the patriark torch or not. tho my opinions are relevent. funny thing is his antigay pushed the others to accept me.  where as if he was nutreal it would not of.



PaHunk, yeah, I know about that family stuff.
I'd been fucked over by my father and an uncle and that was after I got out of the Navy.
I was supposed to be a "man" after getting out of the military and all.
A lot of yelling, screaming, etc. I just took it and when I got older and they got older I reversed roles.
I started yelling and screaming at them, and I mean real degrading, in-your-fuckin'- face insult your dried up manhood stuff.
I just thought that they shouldn't have a comfortable old age.
"You got something to fucking say now you dried up old fuck, you can't even get it up can you you worthless fuck?"
Anytime I'd see them it would be, "Hey! Scumbag!"
They'd look down, broken men.
They had their turn, I had my turn.

If you want to get respect, you have to give respect.

< Message edited by popeye1250 -- 2/25/2008 12:38:11 PM >


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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 6:05:04 PM   
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The section for "Historical inaccuracies" says it all, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_(film)

The wiki on Alan Turing is solid enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 7:06:38 PM   
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Is this the same Alan Turing for whom the "Turing test" is named? (A test of A.I. viability, wherein a tester is timed, until they can determine if they are talking to either a human being within an IM-like situation... or if they are talking to intelligent software.)

The man was brilliant. History will judge his detractors far more harshly than they ever judged him.

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RE: protest sign- wonder what the issue is - 2/25/2008 7:18:11 PM   
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Yes, same guy.

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