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IrishMist -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 6:01:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

not just for our dream bdsm life partner, and or bdsm play situation/s. but also for the dream job, dream house, dream life?

why or why not?

Of course. Anyone has the right to ask for anything that they want. That's not the real issue though. The issue is....once they ask for it; do they have the guts to put in the hard work to attain it. [:)]



DesFIP -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 9:00:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Of course, as long as we accept that to get them requires work and trade off. For example if you want a job that you travel all over the world with, then accept that you won't also be home raising offspring. And that you can't have a pet at the same time. Plus you may have to accept two years of working other jobs while going to school at night to qualify for your dream job.


celeste you make great points, do you think it is too much to ask for all of the above, and that some how there would be a way to have the core needs of say travel, with kids, and dogs possible...is there such a thing as asking for too much? 


Sure, if you are willing to pay other people to raise your kids and accept that they will not get the same kind of parenting that will happen if it's you putting them to bed at night, talking over the day. A nanny just doesn't have the same investment in helping them study Spanish or learn how to handle the mean kid on the bus, nor will she go up to school to have it out with the principal about him being bullied. Nor will she teach morals the way you would, if at all.

You can go to college and then go to medical school or go to law school but you can't have both degrees at age 25 if you started college at 18.



MmeGigs -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 5:55:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Whereas I am appalled at the failure of most US citizens to provide for their own basic needs.  Surely Emerson and Franklin must be spinning in their graves.



I am appalled at the increasing difficulty that many US citizens face in trying to provide for their own basic needs. 

25 years ago I was a single mom with an office clerical job as my sole source of income - no child support, no public assistance.  While it was a struggle, I was able to put food on the table, a roof over our heads, provide us with transportation and pay my daycare bill, and I still had a little left over.  If I were to take a similar job today, I'd have to get a second job just to meet my basic needs, even without a kid and daycare bills. 

The job that paid me $6.00 an hour starting wage in 1982 pays about $8.00 an hour starting wage in 2008.  Had wages kept up with inflation, the most conservative estimates would put that starting wage at more than $12.50.  My 1982 job came with 100% employer-paid family medical insurance and retirement.  That cost my employer about $2.50 an hour in 1982, today it would cost about $10.00 an hour - again, a conservative estimate.  So in real terms - what they're getting for their labor and what it buys them in the world they live in - an accounting clerk today is making about half of what I made in 1982. 

Factory workers are even worse off where I live.  In 1982 they were making about $10 an hour with lots of benefits.  They could afford houses and cars.  Today they're once again making about $10 an hour, but with few benefits.  They can afford to share an apartment and drive a beater.  They can't afford to get sick.  People who work at McDonald's seem to be doing about the same.  They were making about $3.50 an hour in 1982 and are making about $8 an hour now.


I agree with you - it is appalling.



christine1 -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 6:02:40 PM)

i haven't read the whole thread....of course we can ask for whatever we want.  sometimes luck comes into play, but mostly our own hard work will predict what happens.  hard work and being happy with what comes from that hard work is important i think. 



Jeffff -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 6:13:13 PM)

How many " things" actualy add value to your life?  The secret to happiness is to have evrything you want, and to know when to stop wanting.

Jeff



sweetwenchie -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 7:05:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: crouchingtigress

not just for our dream bdsm life partner, and or bdsm play situation/s. but also for the dream job, dream house, dream life?

why or why not?


Who are we asking for all of this from? [;)]  If there is a wish fairy just point out the line to me please.

i think we can hope, we can wish, and we can work to get the things we desire.  Demanding or feeling entitled to things is unattractive, to me at least.



Lumus -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 7:08:39 PM)

The word 'right' never settles well with me.  North America is too young to appreciate the subtext of that word; Europe has a better grasp of it.

Are you breathing?  Great.  Keep that going.  Everything else is a privilege earned, as stated already in several ways.




AtlantisKing111 -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/25/2008 8:58:42 PM)

Of course we do.  Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.



gypsygrl -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/26/2008 3:00:55 AM)

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The word 'right' never settles well with me.


Me neither.  As I understand it, a "right" is something garunteed by the government and can be enforced.  In the United States, we have the right to ask for a dream house, dream job, dream life as that would come under freedom of speech but we certainly are not entitled to them.  Nor should we be, in my opinion.  I do think we should be garunteed a minimum standard of living that would include the meeting of basic needs, but thats different from a dream life.  Unless one is a minimalist dreamer. 




Justme696 -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/26/2008 3:18:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

How many " things" actualy add value to your life?  The secret to happiness is to have evrything you want, and to know when to stop wanting.

Jeff


now you supprise me ;)

no really..well said



Evility -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/26/2008 3:55:37 AM)

The right to ask? Sure.

The right to expect? Not necessarily.



lronitulstahp -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/26/2008 3:59:05 AM)







Dreams








Hold fast to dreams
For if dreams die
Life is a broken-winged bird
That cannot fly.
Hold fast to dreams
For when dreams go
Life is a barren field
Frozen with snow.

Langston Hughes
i think as we achieve various dreams and goals along our path, we should try remember to appreciate the struggle...what we went through to gain whatever it is we sought.  i find those moments of contentment with what i had are sweet gems for reflection as i move forward.  And even if i don't have everything on my list(ie.World Peace...maybe next week[8|])  i savor the things i have that i wouldn't change for anything.



ruthiexxxx -> RE: Do we have the right to ask..... (2/26/2008 4:15:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

Amy, CM does not want me to reply to your thread!  This is my third attempt (the first two booted me).  Hopefully it will post this time :)

I believe in the Law of Attraction, and we attract things to us according to our mindset.  Someone who is always paranoid about getting cheated is, in my opinion, more likely to get cheated.  Someone always worrying about being sick will probably get sick more, etc.

Having said that, I do ask myself to allow good things to come to me.  I also ask myself if I'm willing to do the work to attract and attain good things.  I found that once I became open to goodness, I was overwhelmed by it.  You bet we have a right to ask.  But we also benefit from shaping our minds to receive.


thank goodness someone  has mentioned the 'law of attraction'......it really works!   ask the universe and it will deliver, so long as you are genuinely in an 'attitude of gratitude'.    and if you are happy and grateful you dont even need to ask.....it just comes courtesy of your unconscious wanting.
after all it's only witchcraft made simple and available for all.
vide www.thesecret.tv and 'what the bleep do we know' 



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