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The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:07:15 AM

MsSpankhardSk

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I picked up a book discussing the merits of pet food.

Much to My horror- there are none.

When you see that pets who die at the vet are sometimes given to rendering plants to be fed again in the pet food- ug...I'm going to feed them something different.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20031010/ai_n12730368

Ok.....the book I read was from 1997. Lamb meal (including those affected by brain disease) can be fed to dogs since scrapie has not shown up in the brains of dogs....well no conclusive tests, anyway.

Has anything changed in the industry since that time?

I'm going out to buy some meat for My zoo today.

These asses who make the food should be shot. This is some version of Soilent Green for pets.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:16:05 AM

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You wouldn't want to know what some of my dogs have found and eaten! They're natural scavengers in my opinion. This is based on my own observations...

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:20:36 AM

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The ONLY thing I will feed my furry babies...

http://sojos.com

My vet was so impressed that she has switched her dogs over to it also.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:24:30 AM

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You may want to look into BARF. Dogs love BARF.

...that would be B.A.R.F.

http://www.barfworld.com/ , http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm

...or Google for even more information.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:34:31 AM

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*chuckles*
My dog is not that bright. He sticks his head in the cat box- and its for Scooby Snacks, I suppose (and I find that revolting).

But KNOWINGLY feeding your pets food that could be affected by diseased animals and their rendering is not a regulated industry, as far as I can tell. With pet food recalls, has there been a change?

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:35:44 AM

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Kinda makes you wonder how elderly-on-fixed-incomers who eat pet food feel.The homeless have been taking advantage of this tasty and nutritious source of sustenance for years.emmmm good!

If the pet food company is doing business w/ China,guarantied there`s cat,dog,horse and anything else that walks in that can.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 6:36:17 AM

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I've got a feeling the Pet Food Packing industry's sorta like Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle", but with less immigrant child labor as a primary ingredient. Or, possibly more depending on the country of Origin. Either way, good book.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 7:11:39 AM

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I toss my dog a few eggs. She loves them.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 7:21:08 AM

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Has anyone ever looked at the FDA regs on what is allowed into food that is consumed by humans? And you wonder about what is allowed in animal food?

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 7:32:01 AM

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There is actually an acceptable amount on rat poop to be contained in food,not sure what the measure is.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 8:13:49 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSpankhardSk

*chuckles*
My dog is not that bright. He sticks his head in the cat box- and its for Scooby Snacks, I suppose (and I find that revolting).

Yeah, innit great when the sweet baby treats himself and then comes to you to give you an up-close and personal "HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHiiiii, Mom!" ~chuckle~ And the thing is, they're usually smiling their big doggie smiles when they do it too.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 8:25:50 AM

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quote:

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Has anyone ever looked at the FDA regs on what is allowed into food that is consumed by humans? And you wonder about what is allowed in animal food?

Yes, it has made me wonder about food we eat, like where are the best cuts of meat, dog food or some of the crap that is mechanically recovered, ground to a pulp, formed into likeable shapes and covered in bread crumbs to be sold to us as the latest tasty snack, I am sure you know what I mean.

So, if we are being sold mechanically recovered waste and sweepings off the floor, are we getting the best of that, or does animal food take priority?

Incidently, I was told mechanically recovered could mean blasting off what cannot be cut off with a high pressure water jet, power washer basically, the bits mopped up and then onto the food process.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 8:35:10 AM

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I know it's generally a faux pas to quote yourself when you made the post in another thread a few hours ago, but considering where the conversations headed I'll do it and add to some explaination.

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I didn't read it recently, but if you've yet to read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclare(1906), it's a good book that is major Socialist propaganda piece that led to a few investigations of buying votes, and labor in the meat packing industry. It's the original inspiration for creation of the FDA under the Roosevelt administration after Roosvelt read a prerelease of the book, met with Sinclair, and supposedly gave up meat for awhile.

Lord knows I would. Read it.

edit: OH! Being published in 1906, it's now public domain. You can read it for free online without breaching copyright http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/140

The book, while a work of fiction in the essence that it's written from fictional chacters point of view, was found to be true to it's word. Children were working in the meat packing industry and falling into sausage machines, sawdust was put into food to increase bulk, workers with consumption were dealing with your meat, and there were reports of rats getting so large and fierce they ate children. Mystery meat had a different meaning back then, they weren't talking about SPAM.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 8:37:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

~FR~

Has anyone ever looked at the FDA regs on what is allowed into food that is consumed by humans? And you wonder about what is allowed in animal food?

I know, and, yes, the standards for pet food are much lower. And even grosser.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 12:34:24 PM

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I feed my cats Whiskas brand "Oh So Fishy". They love it - and its the only cat food I've come across that actually smells like and looks like what its meant to be. I may be getting fooled of course, and its likely made from the bits judged unfit for human consumption, but sometimes I quite fancy trying it - not something I could say about any other sort of cat food, even Whiskas other offerings.

I used to work in temperature controlled transport - you really dont want to know the stories I can tell about what goes into leading brand sausages, pies and burgers. Lets just say that meat rejected from the pet food factory hasnt necessarily reached the end of its saleable life, and one set of veterinary papers can be exchanged for another very quickly when needed.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 12:38:43 PM

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My pets get fed Science Diet brend dry dog food and I at times cook chicken thighs and legs for them .. they get 100% dried chicken strips for treats ...thank goodness they are very small dogs .. !

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 1:59:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I feed my cats Whiskas brand "Oh So Fishy". They love it - and its the only cat food I've come across that actually smells like and looks like what its meant to be. I may be getting fooled of course, and its likely made from the bits judged unfit for human consumption, but sometimes I quite fancy trying it - not something I could say about any other sort of cat food, even Whiskas other offerings.

I used to work in temperature controlled transport - you really dont want to know the stories I can tell about what goes into leading brand sausages, pies and burgers. Lets just say that meat rejected from the pet food factory hasnt necessarily reached the end of its saleable life, and one set of veterinary papers can be exchanged for another very quickly when needed.

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LE ,

GO FOR IT !!!

I have eaten ' Whiskas ' before, it is quite paletable, as long as you keep the thought that you are eating cat food out of your head.

I used to be in an organisation, doing an outward bound exercise in the sunny Lake District, an exercise where we were all told to bring an unmarked can of food to prove a point.

That point was that if you are hungry enough, you will eat anything, we swapped cans and ate the contents cold, I got Whiskas, my colleague got the cheapest scabbiest tin of dog food I could find in our local supermarket, I knew what was coming. Incidently, he thought it was stewing steak.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 2:28:08 PM

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Thanks, but I don't live in the USA- I'm not sure if they ship to Canada.
Problem #2 is- poochy eats a LOT and shits like a buffalo. He'll eat this up quickly, and My pockets would collect more lint.
Although it would be a convenient product for when I board him in a kennel.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 2:34:50 PM

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Making your own dog or cat food is very easy and even better it is inexpensive to do. For BarneyCat I cook ground turkey then puree it with some vitamin drops. I buy whole turkeys and wind up with (I fill those lil ziploc baggies per portion and freeze) enough wet kitty food for several months for about .25 cents a day and believe me that teeny kitty eats a LOT.I spend one day cooking it then another day pureeing it. I only have a mini grinder atm. Some prefer to move their pets onto a raw food diet or vegetarian diets. If you google you will find a lot of recipes for our furry friends. There are also a ton of books out with varied recipes. One site I use a lot is Dog.com or Cat.com .I do suggest you run it by your vet to make sure their nutritional needs are met.

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RE: The horror of pet food - 2/23/2008 2:37:16 PM

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With issues like BSE- saying that it or other diseases like scrapies does NOT cross species and thus- removing the brain and spinal cord will make it SAFE to feed to pets...oh...right...that's a GOOD idea! NOT!

That nasty bovine encephalitis just stops at the spinal cord and says "Nope. Can't go in there. I'll infect everything. That's a no-no!"

Righttttttt. I don't want my pet eating the remains of diseased or euthanized animals, especially when...hmmm...the drugs used in euthanasia- sodium barbitol- does NOT break down in the rendering process.

Who wants to eat Whiskas now? (cringes)

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