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beltainefaerie -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 7:40:37 PM)
I have taken way more than Master thought I could before. (other times he knows exactly what he can do to me). Sometimes I take it because I love the pain. Other times it is because I love him and am proud to take what he wishes me to. I enjoy submitting to his desires, even if that is difficult or not inherently enjoyable. Definitely ask her.

LadyPact -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 7:42:06 PM)
Yes, I agree with all of the others that say you should ask her. Make no mistake that is My first comment to you. Still, the question for the sake of discussion is a good one. The answers do vary, of course, from sub to sub. In My boy's case, I am of the very strong opinion that he does love Me because I hurt him. That has helped to strengthen our bond. The intensity of wiitwd is amazing. That being said, he also loves Me because I am also the one who takes the pain away. (Check for the onion factor there, because that statement has a lot of layers.) For emphasis, I'd like to throw this comment in. My boy and I were playing a couple of months or so back. It was a harsh scene, even for a maso, and My sub certainly fits the definition. I had been flogging him, caning him, pulled out the quirt, (you get the idea) and then I decided that on top of that, it was time to do a little torture time with clothespins. I'd applied quite a number to his cock and balls. The boy looked like a porcupine. Then I placed one in just the right spot, and it seemed it would be the straw to break the camel's back. His breathing started coming in a short panting rythym. Under great strain, he said, "I can't do it. I can't do it, m'Lady." I put My had to his cheek and whispered, "Do it for Me, lil one." His breathing calmed and his body relaxed. The point of this being, because he was doing it for Me, he knew he could push himself, that I could push him, farther than he thought he could go.

MasterFireMaam -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 7:51:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. I gotta say I disagree with this. Sometimes, we wonder about the motivations of others. It has nothing to do with who we are...although, it MIGHT have something to do with our insecurities. To the OP: You already know we can't answer the questions. Ask HER. Master Fire

browneyedenigma -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:01:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHathor *If you are asking, huge disconnect.* If You are bothering to ask, HUGE plus. That said...i also get what LadyH is saying... i'm concerned that she took so much pain for You and You are asking U/us questions...what have You discussed with her prior to her sacrifice? Sorry...spelling mishap...

PlayfulOne -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:07:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. I gotta say I disagree with this. Sometimes, we wonder about the motivations of others. It has nothing to do with who we are...although, it MIGHT have something to do with our insecurities. To the OP: You already know we can't answer the questions. Ask HER. Master Fire I couldn't agree more with you. His profile doen't say anything about him so it is hard to know anything about his experience or knowledge. I do know that it can be difficult someitmes for Dominants who do not have a lot of experience with D/s relationships to worry about their partner and second guess whether what they are doing is right, especially when they have feelings for their partner. I think his question may be more of whether she is enjoying the act and her submission or simply tolerating it to please him. She is the only one who knows and it is foolish to expect him to be able to read her mind. K

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:30:20 PM)
After she has rested and the calm has set in..I think maybe you should both sit down and discuss the play you had..ask her what she liked, what she disliked and why...ask her what feelings she experienced...and when you play, you might want to observe her bodies reactions, her breathing,is she trembling,is she sweating,what sounds is she making, etc..and go from that..also..do you have a safe word set up?the red,yellow thing which can tell you where she is in her head..I suspect, as someone else pointed out, the reasons for why she plays can stem from many varied reasons,,depending on the day, hour or minute..just always remember that open frequent communication does not only help when you have worries or doubts or when she has worries or doubts but also creates a closer bond of trust and closeness....Tempting

shysub0951 -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:39:47 PM)
i like it when my Dom pushes me, but like what everyone has already said, ask your girl and talk about it.

blushingflower -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:51:07 PM)
When you say "hurt" do you mean in the S&M way, or in the bad way? Because that changes the answer a lot. But again, you need to ask her.

WingedSnake -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 8:58:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. Not necessarily. No master is all-knowing. However, asking these questions here will not give him the answers he needs That is most certainly wrong. In asking here this question and considering the answers, he can tap into his knowledge about her. That is the way i read his question anyway, as a question he suddenly asked himself, did i gone too far, did she really wanted it, will our relationship be the same when she awakes, doubts and self questioning are the abilities of somebody who is mastering, his/herself and others. Ruth

celticlord2112 -> RE: The dark place (2/19/2008 11:51:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WingedSnake quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. Not necessarily. No master is all-knowing. However, asking these questions here will not give him the answers he needs That is most certainly wrong. In asking here this question and considering the answers, he can tap into his knowledge about her. That is the way i read his question anyway, as a question he suddenly asked himself, did i gone too far, did she really wanted it, will our relationship be the same when she awakes, doubts and self questioning are the abilities of somebody who is mastering, his/herself and others. Ruth Asking questions is never a bad thing. However, the questions in the OP cannot be answered by anyone here, only by her. As is so often the case, the resolution is for him to talk to her when she wakes--talk, listen, and learn....

BlackPhx -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 6:01:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. Sometimes I dance for me, and then is when I devour the pain like a starving woman at an all you can eat bar. Sometimes I dance for Him and then is when I accept the pain as the thirsty earth drinks the rain. Sometimes I dance for Us, and the music is heavy, tortured and perfect. Master will never know which dance I do, without asking. I will never know which he does without asking. We only know that we dance. We cannot read minds. poenkitten

Justme696 -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 6:08:56 AM)
at OP Did you do it to hurt her....or did you do it..because you both like it? That are questions you could ask yourself..the others..she might be able to answer. (if she liked it..it isn't propably real hurting....)

ExSteelAgain -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 6:16:42 AM)
The tone of your post indicates that you pushed her very hard, but it seems you don’t understand her well enough to know if what you did was safe. I would go very slow and leave anyone I didn’t know well wanting more instead of pushing. Work slowly and carefully as you learn someone. It could be the exact reasons will never be spoken or understood, but you will eventually know her and the right mix.

LotusSong -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 9:04:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong If you were a master, you would know before you even started. Not necessarily. No master is all-knowing. However, asking these questions here will not give him the answers he needs Did you buy your first car without knowing how to drive it and then take it on the road? If you had no knowledge, how many wrecks did you cause before you got the hang of it? We are dealing with human nature here and there is damage that can be caused that isn't physical. He almost sounds as if he may even have lost control of himself and wailed away and now is second guessing himself. She probably won't tell him if he fucked up or not.. for she will not want to upset the "master" (you know, this guy who doesn't know if she's OK or not and is hesitant to ask). Here's a clue OP- if she starts to become a bit distant- you did. If she stays with you- LISTEN to her suggestions. Do not rely on your magic dick.

LotusSong -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 9:11:11 AM)
Poems are pretty..but not reality. One of the pair must remain cognizant at all times.

windchymes -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 9:57:03 AM)
Is she sleeping peacefully and relaxed with a smile on her face, or is she curled tightly in a fetal position with her thumb in her mouth?

ExSteelAgain -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 10:09:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes Is she sleeping peacefully and relaxed with a smile on her face, or is she curled tightly in a fetal position with her thumb in her mouth? LOL

ExSteelAgain -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 10:11:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Poems are pretty..but not reality. I'll take poems any old day. The princess has always ran away with the poet.

BlackPhx -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 1:06:19 PM)
Actually wasn't a poem.. it is exactly as the sentences say. Sometimes it's for me, for him or for us the only way to know is to ask. Only way for him to know is to ask. poenkitten

Noah -> RE: The dark place (2/20/2008 2:52:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong Poems are pretty..but not reality. So you were educated to hold that prettiness is what poetry has to offer? See if you can get your money back. You were robbed of an entire world. quote: One of the pair must remain cognizant at all times. ... and thanks for another One True Way moment.

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