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Is the spirituality connected with this lifestyle close to what the creator teaches us in the bible?
If you feel that the spirituality connected with the lifestyle is close to what the creator teaches in the bible and it works for you, then who am I or anyone else to say otherwise?
I am deeply spiritual and my spiritual values, based on Theravada Buddhism, have been the core of everything I do since the age of 17.
The voice which speaks loudest is the voice of my Soul, and it is this voice which guides me along my path through life and throughout I have always sought to develop a relationship and have a dialogue with what we can call here the Creator. The Creator teaches me in my life I feel all the lessons that I need to learn to develop, to grow and mature, and to work towards my own death and whatever lies on the other side of my death.
BDSM has helped me in this, as have many different people in the BDSM community. It has taught me that everyone has something to offer and something to give, and that also everyone has different needs and different desires, some of which are deeply spiritual needs. Yes at times I have been needy, but the relationships didn't always fail, but the person within that relationship responded and gave me what I needed or taught me what I needed to know in order to be less needy. In turn I learned not to be afraid of those who are needy, but instead to make myself open to them and to give them what they needed.
The basis of a D/s relationship is no different to any other relationship. It is a transaction, an exchange, something must be given and something must be taken, but neither can happen until something is shared.
I have learned that the basis of BDSM is about the management of power, but also in being open enough to share one needs with someone else, to be open enough to give or provide someone else with what they need and to satisfy their needs and desires, with the ultimate aim of both me and the other person developing, growing, and learning, and in turn, having a relationship which also develops and grows. Therefore BDSM can only be about sharing, giving, and learning to trust someone enough to be open and vulnerable to share one's innermost needs and desires.
And this is the way it has always been.. Not all of my time spent in this community has been spent in relationships, there have been times when I have been alone, there have been times when I have had to face up to what lies within and ask of myself some very difficult questions and to seek out and find the answers. There have been failed relationships, there have been misunderstandings, there have been times when I have fallen victim to some illusion and deceived myself, and even despite good intentions deceived someone else - mistakes have been made and some attempts at relationships have ended in failure - but my intentions have always been good.
Each and everyone of us are following our own individual spiritual path through life, and also we are following our own individual path through this community, seeking someone who can fulfill our needs whether they be emotional, spiritual or purely physical. Some of us may even be following this path looking for others with needs that they wish to fulfill.
Many are seeking something which they never received or found in childhood, or are seeking something which they cannot find in their normal, everyday lives, and quite often this is a spiritual need, and we seek to find someone who we can trust to share that need with. This quite often goes beyond our own physical needs, or even emotional, and we can only find it in a BDSM type of relationship where there is a transfer of energy between two people, because that is what our soul or spirit is - energy. This explains why spirituality has a very comfortable place in BDSM.
It is also compatible because just like most religion, BDSM is based on karmic law, and many of us here I feel are here to either repay some sort of karmic debt or are seeking some sort of karmic compensation for past deeds, whether knowingly or unknowingly. This may not always be true, for it may just be that some of us are working to build up our karmic credit in the hope of some greater reward or happiness. Just the same what you give is what you get, intention is everything.
I think there's a passage about this in the Bible, which states 'as ye shall sow ye shall reap'.
I cannot quote the Bible or any other texts, nor would I want to. All I know is any avenue which leads to my own spiritual development and growth or that of other people through what I think say and do is a good avenue.
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There are certainly quite a few aspects of D/s that may appear to be based upon passages in the bible (King James Version). My religious background was in the extreme (to say the least) and when I begin to delve into TPE within BDSM, it was shocking as this what I'd always been taught (and rebelled against). It was a wife's duty to submit to her husband. The husband was admonished to love his wife as Christ loved the church (most guys I dealt with when I was active in the church sorta forgot that second part, but I digress). I must admit when I met a Christian Dom who stated that He was into BDSM I 'bout passed out. At that time, I was in the very early learning stages of BDSM and most of it seemed to be a bit harsh and certainly nothing that I would think would/should occur within a Christian household (bondage, pain, etc.). Discipline, well, that could be included with the husband being the head of the household. This Dom (who is now a dear, dear friend of mine) patiently explained a few things to me and quoted numerous biblical passages that I totally knew, such as: In marriage, the bed is undefiled, i.e., what goes on between a husband and wife is honorable. I'm not of the mindset that you have to marry your Dom (unless that is something that you both desire) but to be honest, although I've been engaged and have been in LTR, I'd never opened my heart or submitted to anyone the way I have with my Dom. I feel more of a "spiritual" bond with my Dom and it has absolutely nothing to do with any organized religion. Enjoy, be safe and have fun because trust me, life is way too short
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