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fluffyswitch -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 7:18:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: petdave

i'm not sure what a semiology is, but i don't think you'll get much out of the second and third book that you won't get out of the first. On the other hand, they're damned cheap compared to a semester worth of tuition, so you may as well grab them for those nights when the cable goes out.




semiology==boring linguistics thing that i'm halfway good at but remember how much i dislike doing when i sit down to do it. maybe if i can find them on half.com i'll pick them up just to have the complete set.



lighthearted -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 7:30:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetpetal

Personally.. i have loved Anne Rice as an author..and have nearly all of her books she wrote (under both names)..before she went all religious and said she wont be writing books like the Vampires and Witches books she wrote before..



I have enjoyed many of her other books, including the Witches...actually I really love the first two books, but again, I walked away from those fairly unfulfilled.  it seems like she had/has these great ideas and can't deliver past the initial "hook". 



RCdc -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 7:57:22 AM)

I like Anne Rice.  It's not Milton, but it's a fair read.
I loathe beauty - badbadbad.  Don't bother.
 
the.dark.



fluffyswitch -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 7:59:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

I like Anne Rice.  It's not Milton, but it's a fair read.
I loathe beauty - badbadbad.  Don't bother.
 
the.dark.


i don't think it's anything that i would have picked if it wasn't for this paper--and even then i only picked it because it's relatively well known. i liked her other stuff just not this series.



camille65 -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 8:55:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

i'm aware of the fact that there are book threads, so if you want to tell me that more power to you but you're not telling me anything i don't know already.

anyway, i'm working through rice's beauty trilogy (i'm using the first one for a semiology/content analysis for a paper) and i'm wondering what people's real opinions on the series are. i know a lot of people love it. i'm wondering what other opinions are there. i just don't want to spend the money on the other two if they're really not worth it,



 I've not read any other 'reviews' on this thread yet but here goes.I thought they sucked. They were awful, poorly written and horribly stuck on purple prose. I did read all of them because I bought them all at once and I have this thing where I finish a book always.The moment I finished, I gave them away. I thought she should have felt embarrassed for having written them. As a comparison take her novel Exit to Eden then look at the movie made. IMO her Beauty series was actually worse than the movie version of Exit to Eden. *dons her fireproof pjs and gets her marshmallows ready* They were dreck. She couldnt even manage to write flowing conversation! It was stilted and sadly boring. It felt like it was a first time writer trying to write without having read a novel before. *dodges*  Now I'm going to read the other reviews lol.



YourhandMyAss -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 12:42:12 PM)

To bad ya didn't say something like 5 months ago. I have all 3 of the books in great condition with a decorative box I was selling an nobody bit so I gave em to my bf for free lol.
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ORIGINAL: fluffyswitch

maybe if i can find them on half.com i'll pick them up just to have the complete set.




lusciouslips19 -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 12:46:31 PM)

Its good wank fodder, but once I'm done the book goes back on the shelf.



Gwynvyd -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 12:54:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

I liked the books. Yes, they are repetative: a lot of erotica is! I think what turns most people off to them is they are written from a ver bisexual point of view. People who are a little closer to one end of the Kinsey scale or the other tend to get the willies about that sort of thing. But, for those of us who are a bit more "flexible" in our desires, the books are wonderful, romantic whacking material! I personally love books two and three, because of the pony play elements. The first book really only had one or two scenes that grabbed my imagination. Otherwise, it was forgettable. If you're looking for something poetic, like "O," you're going to be disappointed. But if you want something a bit more engaging than a copy of this month's "Penthouse Variations," then you'll be pretty pleased.

It's BDSM sex fantasy. Pure (or maybe I should say impure) and simple.



exactly what he said.... it tends to squick most folks who are on one side or other of the fence. It does have loads of pony play in the other books. Personaly I liked the books.. They were ment to be erotic novels... not the next Great American Novel. The premise is a decent one.. and as with most porn it doesnt have the most awesome story line ever.

Personaly I felt let down with "The Story of O" so much hype for very little IMO. *shrugs*

When I read books I read them for what they are.. romance novels are bound to be fluff.. and not very intellectually challenging. Heavy Erotica is genraly not going to have a complex and well followed plot line. *shrugs*

Gwyn



LotusSong -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 1:40:38 PM)

I found them unrealistic. If you love fiction, then have at it.
 
(BTW.. anyone want to by my set?  Read once and put on the shelf.



bipolarber -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 1:53:39 PM)

Gwnvyd,

Have you tried much Pat Califia? The "Macho Sluts" collection is, IMHO, one of the best sets of BDSM short stories ever! The cool thing is, not only are the sex scenes hot as lava, but the characters actually stop to think about "how to make the relationship work." A good dose of real life along with all the leather/sexual athletics. There's also "Melting Point" and "Doing it For Daddy. (ed.)"




camille65 -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 2:04:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

I liked the books. Yes, they are repetative: a lot of erotica is! I think what turns most people off to them is they are written from a ver bisexual point of view. People who are a little closer to one end of the Kinsey scale or the other tend to get the willies about that sort of thing. But, for those of us who are a bit more "flexible" in our desires, the books are wonderful, romantic whacking material! I personally love books two and three, because of the pony play elements. The first book really only had one or two scenes that grabbed my imagination. Otherwise, it was forgettable. If you're looking for something poetic, like "O," you're going to be disappointed. But if you want something a bit more engaging than a copy of this month's "Penthouse Variations," then you'll be pretty pleased.

It's BDSM sex fantasy. Pure (or maybe I should say impure) and simple.



exactly what he said.... it tends to squick most folks who are on one side or other of the fence. It does have loads of pony play in the other books. Personaly I liked the books.. They were ment to be erotic novels... not the next Great American Novel. The premise is a decent one.. and as with most porn it doesnt have the most awesome story line ever.

Personaly I felt let down with "The Story of O" so much hype for very little IMO. *shrugs*

When I read books I read them for what they are.. romance novels are bound to be fluff.. and not very intellectually challenging. Heavy Erotica is genraly not going to have a complex and well followed plot line. *shrugs*

Gwyn
 The sexuality angled towards homosexuality, pony play or the kitty/milk scene is not the problem I had with the books. Many of the books I like have bisexuality or same sex going on. A few that I like areLA BanksSunny (yup that is the authors name, just Sunny)Christine Feehan (just a few of hers, they get repetitive to me)JA WardRichard Laymon for creepy horror erotica (some of his are fairly wretched, some a delightful read) I'd have to go look at my library to pull out more authors but that is a sampling. It was the writing, the writing was so bad that IMO it became a chore to try and read it. I disagree that anyone not liking the books does so because it squicks them out. Well her quality of prose squicked me but I don't think that is what you meant [8D]



Feric -> RE: the beauty trilogy (1/31/2008 9:32:57 PM)

I slogged through 1/3 of the first book and finally tossed it aside. It's not only repetitive, it's dull! The writing is turgid at best, the pace is like an inchworm in a pond of stagnant water, and the characters have all the depth of a credit card! I think Rice wrote it when she was suffering from Writer's Block! 



fluffyswitch -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 9:35:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Feric

I slogged through 1/3 of the first book and finally tossed it aside. It's not only repetitive, it's dull! The writing is turgid at best, the pace is like an inchworm in a pond of stagnant water, and the characters have all the depth of a credit card! I think Rice wrote it when she was suffering from Writer's Block! 


try running an indepth of analysis of it lol.



Lucylastic -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 1:45:29 PM)

Camille, I too get a kick out of Richard Laymon
Ive read story of O and was verrrrrrrry disapointed in it, apart from the piercing bit...well maybe a couple of other bits.
it jumped about way to much, and the ending, wellllll it sucked
Beauty ...... the best part was the pony boys, but as a het domme, im fussy about my erotica.
One thing I did find interesting about it, especially online was that so many  people thought it was the ultimate say in how they had to live their life to be considered dominant/submissive/slavish.
just my 02.cents



bipolarber -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 2:01:33 PM)

Lucy,

Yeah, some people take fiction far too seriously. It happens with a lot of pop culture. Look at the Trekkies, the Goreans, the Scientology folk... hell, there was even a religious group that popped up in the 70's when the first "Battlestar Galactica" was on the air.(based on that show's polytheisim.)

The Beauty series is a great bit of BDSM fairytale storytelling, but it's filled with technical inaccuracies that could hurt people, or potentially get someone killed. I mean, single point suspension for days on end? Leather dildoes being left in someone for an entire day? (leather, being pourus, would eventually absorb whatever lube was present, and end up adhering itself to the colonic wall, tearing the hell out of the tissue whenever the wearer moved, or when they tried to remove it.) Not to mention all the scenes of extreme bondage, and the slave was left alone (!) for hours and hours... Odd how the only injury that took place in the books was from taking a paddling too far in the first volume. After that, there was never a mention of the risks, possible pregnancy, STD's....

Like I said, it's a BDSM fairytale. Or, to use a better term, a "Pornotopia."



thetammyjo -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 2:39:42 PM)

I read the first book because I was asked to review it. I would only read the others if asked to review them and the books were free.

I found it to be the same scene over and over and frankly she gets away from the fairytales a bit too much. I thought Prince Charming was basically an asshole and his mother even worse. Hardly a hero in the fairytale sense. I don't think changing the character of the characters in a fairytale too much is a good approach to kinkifying (is that a word?) something.



AquaticSub -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 2:43:30 PM)

Haven't read them. Haven't ever been interested.



bipolarber -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 2:53:14 PM)

Then again, if she hadn't changed the characters into somehting other than their "Disney" goodie-goodies, there wouldn't be much BDSM action happening, would there?

I think her biggest mistake was that she chose the wrong fairy tale to base the books on. It really should have been "Beauty and the Beast." As one famous version put it, "There is no Master in this castle, but for you."  -Beast.




LaTigresse -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 3:27:00 PM)

I gave them to a young woman once.........they served their purpose....[;)]



PanthersMom -> RE: the beauty trilogy (2/1/2008 5:33:34 PM)

bought them years ago for hubby, decided to read them myself.  ugh.

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