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LadyJane -> Death of a slave (1/27/2008 7:53:50 PM)

I have spent some effort in considering the consequences to the slave/submissive in the event of their Dominant's death.  What has confounded Me is the vacuum of consideration of the Dominant when the slave/submisisve dies.  I had not even considered this aspect!
 
My slave mcbarker died suddenly on Saturday evening last week.    W/we were in a tpe and his death has rocked Me more than I knew could be possible.
 
I have received support from Crime Victims and Officer Support--I appreciate that.  What I would like to find, if it exists, is a support unit for those in D/s.  Does anyone have knowledge of such?  I am very much interested in this subject.

 
 




AquaticSub -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 7:55:38 PM)

~Fast Reply~

I'm sorry to say that I do not know of anything I could suggest, other than to reach out to the groups you already belong to. My very best wishes to you and I hope that others can be more useful.




PrizedPosession -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:03:28 PM)

i'm so sorry for Your loss. My deepest condolences and i wish you all the love in the world.
Sincerly




GreedyTop -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:11:33 PM)

*hugs* Jane... I would suggest ANY grief support group, be it church, professional counselors, etc.  if you're not in an area that has a very active BDSM community ( and I mean community in the best sense of the word).

I am so VERY sorry for your loss..and I urge you to find someone to share the pain of your loss.

I know you asked about D/s support, but at least for now, go anywhere where they can grasp the grief, if not the dynamics.  Later, when it isnt so IMMEDIATELY raw, concentrate then on finding a specifically kink aware group...

my heart goes out to you..




snowandsub -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:11:44 PM)

sending my sincere condolences on your loss. that is heartbreaking.

I wish I could help but I have no clue but I trust this forum will have some help for you.  




MissMagnolia -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:12:39 PM)

I don't know of any specific groups for those in D/s relationships, but mourning the death of anyone important in our life takes the same road, denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. So don't give up on grief counselling and help.

My deepest sympathies on your loss.




LadyLolly -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:26:26 PM)

Echoing condolences for your loss as well. 

Unfortunately, I've known others that have suffered similar loss. 
It does shake your world to the core.   

To the best of my knowledge there is no specific BDSM group/support.  A BDSM friendly therapist if there is one in your area that can be located might be one resource available if needed..

You have the loss of someone very close to you.  Grief counseling, victems support groups are there for you as much as for anyone else regardless of the exact dynamics involved.   Look to them and friends in the community to come to terms with everything as best you can. 




MaamJay -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:33:55 PM)

I echo the advice already given, any grief support will help. Master and I send Our condolences on Your loss, it must be devastating in little ways that wouldn't be such an impact in a non tpe relationship. Perhaps someone on these boards or the boards themselves could be a place where You can specifically vent about the M/s aspects that You are missing so terribly, while You receive "regular" grief support from elsewhere.

With every good wish for a journey towards a brighter future while cherishing the past.
Maam Jay aka violet[A]




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:41:27 PM)

Many condolences on your loss.  It sounds as if this death was unexpected, and possibly violent?  I wish I had some more specific places to refer you to....I know that others on the boards have lost slaves, maybe they can offer better help.




shysub0951 -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:48:09 PM)

i am sorry to hear about your loss. There is a website called Kink Aware Professionsals, of which i can not find their site for the sake of it. i would try their site and since they do services in relation to this lifestyle, they, in my mind, would be better equipped to handle a d/s relationship.
  May you find strength to carry on




DominaSmartass -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:52:23 PM)

First of all, I am very sorry to hear of your loss. I wish that this never had to be the case for anyone, but I know all too well that it does happen.

Secondly, if you live near a large city, chances are there may be a chapter of "MAsT" (Master and slaves Together) in your area. I would definitely recommend attending a meeting or contacting the people in charge of the local group privately as this group of people is specifically meant for dealing with Master/slave relationships and supporting those in them.





celticlord2112 -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:56:34 PM)

A very tragic and sad time for you.  Please accept my deepest sympathies for your loss.  As others have already stated...any grief counseling or support group would be helpful, and certainly better than no support at all.

You are in my prayers.....




Daddysredhead -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:58:17 PM)

Bless you for the loss you have experienced.  I have nothing more to offer other than my deepest sympathies and warm prayers that one day, you will feel better.

Hugs,
DRH




LadyPact -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 8:59:49 PM)

I've learned to talk more about this part of My personal history in My year on CM.  Just so you know, that is one, though not the only option, available to you.

Literally, just yesterday, I attended an event to mark a celebration of a Master who had passed away a year ago.  The rememberence was held by his slave, to mark the passing.  He was taken from her by cancer.  I will not go into the details of the day, as I would like to honor her, for her devotion, and His memory.

One part of this event that struck Me was sent out to those invited.  There was to be a candle lighting ceremony.  Those who had lost someone in the lifestyle had the option of lighting a candle in that person's name.  When I read the original email, I hesitated a bit.  For one, I did not want to detract from the person that was to be honored.  For another, I am not especially public about the loss of My first slave, and I wasn't sure about bringing that into the event.  Eventually, I made the decision to go ahead and have a candle placed in his name, that I would light.

When I got to the event yesterday, and saw the candles in front of the rocks designated with names of the lost, I was comforted to see them.  I was not alone in remembering someone.  In fact, there were many.  Maybe almost as many as the number who were participating in the event itself.  In a sense, I felt joined with the others who were attending.  It made Me realize that, many in the lifestyle, had also lost someone.  I felt like there was a bond.  A common empathy among those who had lost another.  It was a joining, in some way.  I knew I was not alone.  Others had to travel the same path of loss that I had been.  There were others that felt that same experience, and grief was not something that was unique.

The reason that I tell you this, even though it was not especially comforting, was to make a specific suggestion.  That being, there are others, probably in your local community, who have also had to endure what you feel just now.  Many in this lifestyle have lost.  You can find solace there.  Through others who have also had this experience.  We know the pain you feel.  We have felt it for ourselves.  We know what it is like to feel the hurt.  We have looked into the casket.  We have seen life extinguished.  Please go into your local community, and find us there.  I promise.  We exist.

May I please extend My most hearfelt sorrows for you.  I have walked in your shoes.


In rememberence of michael.




spanklette -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 9:24:54 PM)

I'm sorry for your loss...I wish we were just a tad closer and I could offer a shoulder. Other than that, Bellingham is supposed to have a fairly vast lifestyle community...maybe you can find some sort of resource within it. I wish you the best, and please drop me a line if you feel like there is anything I can do.




Gwynvyd -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 9:39:02 PM)

I am so sorry for your loss. I do reconmend as others have to find a councilor in your area who is listed as "alternative friendly" perhaps and talk about your feelings with some close friends or them. Esp. if it was a sudden or violent passing.
Give yourself the time to grieve, and be kind to yourself in the process.

You are in my thoughts and prayers..

Gwyn




snappykappy -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 9:43:17 PM)

just keep in touch with special people u know who will help u through the tough times and they will be a good shoulder to lean on




juliaoceania -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 10:30:25 PM)

I am so sorry for your loss




LadyHugs -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 11:14:15 PM)

Dear LadyJane, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
My deepest respects are extended to you LadyJane, and those to whom are linked with your relationship in friendship and or association.
 
I have also experienced such a lost.  Although it was not violent, the empty place still is felt to this very moment, of each of the slaves that were lost their battles on earth.  I still grieve and its been over many years ago.
 
There has been no 'organized' grief group that I know of, although it was brought up and a workshop held at the 2005 Master-slave conference, in Washington, DC -- Master Taino-Producer.  The workshop had Masters/Mistresses who lost slaves and slaves who lost their Master/Mistress.  We had the added bonus of having clergy who are into M/s and or D/s that also added their professional side and support.
 
One thing that did come from the workshop, is that as much as you may be prepared for another's death --you're never prepared enough.  Sudden death, is even more profound as it was something that nobody prepared for as nobody sees it coming.  The survivors are who suffer.  Roles mean nothing --it boils down to being a human being that has suffered a great loss that nothing will never replace and or compensate.  We all mourn in different ways, we all mourn in different lengths of time--if at all.  The struggle is to carry forward and try never to compare the future partner with the one that has been lost and or to attempt to recreate an individual into a carbon copy of the one that has been lost.  It is not easy.  The only thing that any survivor can do, is accept the compassion, understanding and respectful sympathy for the loss as well as all the support you, the grieving; wish to accept.  When it comes time for another to suffer loss--you can look them in their eyes and truthfully know how real pain feels as it is deep in the heart and soul of the survivor.
 
Again, my sincere regrets that you have lost a precious spirit in your life.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 




Bound2One -> RE: Death of a slave (1/27/2008 11:50:20 PM)

My condolences for your loss.  My prayers and thoughts are with you.  I wish I had more to offer.  




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