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Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 7:45:27 AM   
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And an example of how shallow and the mainstream media is, 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODHaIDfPXU

The lame as apology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLIasbt_0xE&feature=user

More examples of his unfairness and pettiness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYObX2AE-Gs

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 8:03:49 AM   
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OK---so you like Hilary and in these clips Matthews appears not to.  In all fairness, after Tuesday's Nevada debate he was effusive in his praise of her performance.  Though he can be a little off the wall, at least he makes people think and takes responsibilities for his words (as opposed to O'Reilly and Limbagh who blame everyone else when they screw up).

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 8:27:53 AM   
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OK---so you like Hilary and in these clips Matthews appears not to.  In all fairness, after Tuesday's Nevada debate he was effusive in his praise of her performance.  Though he can be a little off the wall, at least he makes people think and takes responsibilities for his words (as opposed to O'Reilly and Limbagh who blame everyone else when they screw up).


Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.

My point is how shallow he is.

He`s quite typical of what the mainstream media`s putting out.Nothing deeper than the conventional wisdom and the lowest common denominators,like scandal,sexy stories and tabloid journalism,along w/ what he said about Hillary.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 9:05:35 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: lockmeupplease

OK---so you like Hilary and in these clips Matthews appears not to.  In all fairness, after Tuesday's Nevada debate he was effusive in his praise of her performance.  Though he can be a little off the wall, at least he makes people think and takes responsibilities for his words (as opposed to O'Reilly and Limbagh who blame everyone else when they screw up).


Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.

My point is how shallow he is.

He`s quite typical of what the mainstream media`s putting out.Nothing deeper than the conventional wisdom and the lowest common denominators,like scandal,sexy stories and tabloid journalism,along w/ what he said about Hillary.


Owner, nothing wrong with being liberal.
But if Democrats want to win elections they need to understand that most people in the country think of themselves as "moderates."
For whatever reason Democrats have embraced many policies of the "left" and "far left."
The further you go to either side of the pendulum the less people there are who share your ideas.
It's one thing to win "The Coasts" but you need to win "Flyover land" too as they call it in Hollywood.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 9:40:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: lockmeupplease

OK---so you like Hilary and in these clips Matthews appears not to.  In all fairness, after Tuesday's Nevada debate he was effusive in his praise of her performance.  Though he can be a little off the wall, at least he makes people think and takes responsibilities for his words (as opposed to O'Reilly and Limbagh who blame everyone else when they screw up).


Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.

My point is how shallow he is.

He`s quite typical of what the mainstream media`s putting out.Nothing deeper than the conventional wisdom and the lowest common denominators,like scandal,sexy stories and tabloid journalism,along w/ what he said about Hillary.


Owner, nothing wrong with being liberal.
But if Democrats want to win elections they need to understand that most people in the country think of themselves as "moderates."
For whatever reason Democrats have embraced many policies of the "left" and "far left."
The further you go to either side of the pendulum the less people there are who share your ideas.
It's one thing to win "The Coasts" but you need to win "Flyover land" too as they call it in Hollywood.


All true,Popeye.

The Democrats are the moderate party.

Since Bush and the far right neo-cons have taken power,the Democratic Party is now the left,middle,and right.B/c so many long time republicans don`t recognize their old party anymore.

Hillary,just like Bill,will get a lot of moderate republican votes,and well as the undecideds.She did that in NY state.

Obama also has that kind of support as well,even though we know what`s going to be said about him,if he were to win the primary.

As an aside,this "both parties do it" crap,is bullshit.There is no one like Karl Rove,or anyone like him,employed,payed by or otherwise,by democrats.

Anyone who believes that democrats are as bad as republicans, is an easy date and naive,or is a republican.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 9:52:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

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ORIGINAL: lockmeupplease

OK---so you like Hilary and in these clips Matthews appears not to.  In all fairness, after Tuesday's Nevada debate he was effusive in his praise of her performance.  Though he can be a little off the wall, at least he makes people think and takes responsibilities for his words (as opposed to O'Reilly and Limbagh who blame everyone else when they screw up).


Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.

My point is how shallow he is.

He`s quite typical of what the mainstream media`s putting out.Nothing deeper than the conventional wisdom and the lowest common denominators,like scandal,sexy stories and tabloid journalism,along w/ what he said about Hillary.


Owner, nothing wrong with being liberal.
But if Democrats want to win elections they need to understand that most people in the country think of themselves as "moderates."
For whatever reason Democrats have embraced many policies of the "left" and "far left."
The further you go to either side of the pendulum the less people there are who share your ideas.
It's one thing to win "The Coasts" but you need to win "Flyover land" too as they call it in Hollywood.


All true,Popeye.

The Democrats are the moderate party.

Since Bush and the far right neo-cons have taken power,the Democratic Party is now the left,middle,and right.B/c so many long time republicans don`t recognize their old party anymore.

Hillary,just like Bill,will get a lot of moderate republican votes,and well as the undecideds.She did that in NY state.

Obama also has that kind of support as well,even though we know what`s going to be said about him,if he were to win the primary.

As an aside,this "both parties do it" crap,is bullshit.There is no one like Karl Rove,or anyone like him,employed,payed by or otherwise,by democrats.

Anyone who believes that democrats are as bad as republicans, is an easy date and naive,or is a republican.


Owner, you're partially correct there but your assumption that Bush is a "Republican" is incorrect, he's not.
He's simply a *mouthpiece for big business* and their "free trade-outsourcing" programs.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 10:25:27 AM   
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You think Bill got Republican Moderate votes????  Bill won with the lowest vote % in history because Perot took a lot of Republican votes.  Someone is rewritting history here

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 10:47:38 AM   
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You think Bill got Republican Moderate votes????  Bill won with the lowest vote % in history because Perot took a lot of Republican votes.  Someone is rewritting history here


Not in his first election,between Bush Sr. and Ross"the boss" Perot.The reason Clinton got so few votes,is b/c it was a three way race.  The analysis that Perot got mostly republican votes,is self-serving,and not true.It was about 50/50.

I was referring to his 2nd win,against Bob "Dull" and the football guy,I forget his name.

Clinton wiped up,because he was a proven performer with the country`s interests at heart.I don`t agree with everything he did(NAFTA-GAT,etc.),but he did well for America,in general.

I should have been clearer about that.Thanks Lucky.

She did get the NY state vote,though,which unlike NYC,is mostly conservative.She`ll do as well,with moderate republicans nation-wide,too.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 10:56:38 AM   
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Actually in 96, with the benefit of incumbancy, running against Bob "Dull" (who like Mc cain carries his disability from combat injuries to this day), Clinton could not even get 50% of the vote. 

Bush got a higher % of votes both times than Clinton got either time....I know you don't like that fact, but it doesn't matter, the second lowest winning vote % in American history.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 11:06:14 AM   
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Actually in 96, with the benefit of incumbancy, running against Bob "Dull" (who like Mc cain carries his disability from combat injuries to this day), Clinton could not even get 50% of the vote. 

Bush got a higher % of votes both times than Clinton got either time....I know you don't like that fact, but it doesn't matter, the second lowest winning vote % in American history.


He still beat your guy, with "the second lowest winning vote % in American history",all the same....lol

Are you trying to make a point?And if so,then what is it?

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 11:18:23 AM   
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My point was that your statement,"Hillary,just like Bill,will get a lot of moderate republican votes,and well as the undecideds."  is completely false and based on a a rewrite of history.  

Just pointing out to those following along at home that Hillaries number one supporter on here has to make up stuff to make his points. 

Bill didn't get any Republican votes (maybe he got a few here and there, but to call them "a lot" is just kooky, and simply not factual.). 

I imagine you meant "Independant" instead of "undecided".  Politicians do not get votes from the undecided.  IF they vote, they have decided who to vote for.  Bill got and Hillary certainly would get some of those

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 8:24:44 PM   
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My problem with Chris Matthews is that he tends to believe he speaks for the masses and says American people do this because of x and attaches some completely shallow reason for x.  Now while I will agree that the average american ain't exactly a rocket scientist, I don't believe I like having Chris Matthews speak for me as he tends to miss the real issues and get bogged down in minutia and drama.  I understand he is a journalist and selling drama.  He can do that without saying I agree with his drama and unintelligent positions.

I'm no fan of hilary, however, I honestly really doubt she got her present office because people felt sorry for her because Bill messed around, if anything I think the current polls show people have a negative attitude about that whole incident and her involvement.

The final thing about this guy that has always struck me is that he is fucking odd both in his mannerisms and the way he speaks.  He speaks like out of the corner of his mouth and it's distracting.  It always amazes me when they hire people for tv news that had weird distracting features like that.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 9:13:14 PM   
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Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.




Please....

Just like a liberal to ply revisionist history.

You have discounted Obama at every turn and I know you believe he can't win in the general election because he is shhhh... (black)

You'd lick the ground in front of Mrs Clinton.  Meanwhile real progressive liberals are flocking to Obama in droves. You are way to late to the party.

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/18/2008 10:11:54 PM   
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Though a liberal,I have no allegiance to any one candidate,right now.We`ve "rigged" this years election,so that there`s no bad choice.




Please....

Just like a liberal to ply revisionist history.

You have discounted Obama at every turn and I know you believe he can't win in the general election because he is shhhh... (black)

You'd lick the ground in front of Mrs Clinton.  Meanwhile real progressive liberals are flocking to Obama in droves. You are way to late to the party.


Ahh,I`m sorry,.....but you must have me mistaken for someone else,....Fat-domdaddy.

I haven`t criticized Obama,and you`d be lying if you said I did.An example?

I`haven`t said anything about Obama,other then mentioning FoxNews` attempt to assassinate his character,by saying he attended a radical "Madrasa".

Why the lying about what I`ve said about Obama?What`s the point of that?

You`re thread and posts on Obama,have said more about your views on race and black people,than you realize.

You'd lick the ground in front of Mrs Clinton.  Meanwhile real progressive liberals are flocking to Obama in droves. You are way to late to the party.


Fact is,the democrats have "rigged" this year`s election,so that only good,intelligent people, will get nominated.Doesn`t matter who wins,they`re all good.


Whether it`s Hillary,Barak,or John Edwards,we will have much better candidate,than the GOP,and I will support them.We`re very happy with our choices,unlike the republicans.lol

What happened to "front-runner","in 1st place",Rudy?Last I heard,he`s like, in last place.Bye-bye ,Wudy.

Mind reading is not working out for ya,Fat-domdaddy.Don`t quit your day job.lol

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RE: Chris matthews is a huge dick!.... - 1/19/2008 7:30:01 AM   
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More and more people are getting there news from NON-networks.  Hillary has balls. Ild vote for her. and yes- she stood by her man- but if she divorced weld hear would a lesbo user she is.  Hr eyes on the prize- so be it. good for her.

Now show me someone who is anticorporate and they get my vote.

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