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DollFaceMania -> He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:08:20 PM)

I have a friend with benifits. He is pretty much vanilla with a very sadistic and dominate state of mind. When we are "playing" he wont be the Dom I know he is. How do I help him overcome any of his, for lack of a better word, fears of hurting me too badly or going too far?




Rover -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:11:08 PM)

Tell him he hits like a girl.
 
John




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:12:34 PM)

lol


i have and it still doesnt help. he just gets mad and stops.




Rover -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:13:26 PM)

Tell him he's a quitter.  ;)
 
John




MissMagnolia -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:13:47 PM)

How do you know his state of mind? He may just be playing along because he thinks that its what YOU want him to be.




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:16:01 PM)

ok so saying i know his state of mind was a bad way to word it....if he is playing along how do i ask him about it?




MissMagnolia -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:18:57 PM)

Just ask him if he's trying to keep you happy, or does he really feel that way. You're fucking this person and he's supposed to be a friend. Just ask him flat out.




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:20:20 PM)

good point. thank you.




mnottertail -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:20:36 PM)

your 19, this aint the last time your tongue is withdrawqn its sword in you life

89 will be a real shitty time to find out you aint compatible




PrizedPosession -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:20:59 PM)

In this case maybe you just need to be blunt about it. That you think that he can step up the testosterone or maybe he just feels uncomfortable with the idea hence his womanly hits.





MissMagnolia -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:21:24 PM)

Just remember guys will say almost anything to get in your pants, so you MIGHT have to dig deep to get the truth.




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:21:42 PM)

lol. id be mad if i found out at 89 we werent compatable.




mnottertail -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:23:11 PM)

just say, do you like the way I suck your dick or are you scared to talk?
If it is the former, you are set, if it is the latter kick him to the curb.




MadRabbit -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:23:19 PM)

It's not an uncommon or even new scenario. It's just something that comes with time. There is a degree of social conditioning you have to get past regarding hitting women on one hand. On the other hand, think of it as kind of like beast that's been in it's cage for so long that it has some trouble coming out.

Typically, when your new, your afraid of going to far, not doing it right, harming someone or not being as cool as all the other Dominants. We can thank that to the continueing efforts of the Internet Safety Police with their websites featuring over-exagerrated and over-the-top injury scenarios and injuries that leave you with the impression that your going to invoke the wrath of god by swinging a paddle. While I am sure there is good arguments for the positives of stuff like this, when you don't have the experience to match up these possible scenarios with probable reality, your left with an irrational fear that all these horrible things are going to happen when you play.

There is also the "What the hell am I doing?" guilt factor which is powerful enough to cause some serious inner conflict.

Be supportive and encouraging. The more you reinforce the notion that you want him to be big and bad, the more comfortable he will be with letting go.




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:23:52 PM)

guys arent the only ones who will say anything to get in somones pants.

maybe he is just chicken shit of the whole bdsm world. he never talks about it when i bring it up, never wants to go to play parties or anything.




AquaticSub -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:30:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DollFaceMania

guys arent the only ones who will say anything to get in somones pants.

maybe he is just chicken shit of the whole bdsm world. he never talks about it when i bring it up, never wants to go to play parties or anything.


Or maybe he just doesn't want to go.

Not being into BDSM, or play parties if you are into BDSM, aren't character flaws.




MadRabbit -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:48:28 PM)

I see the thread has taken the turn of going straight to the lowest possible common denominator when all I see is a scenario that I would say is a common of experience of quite a lot of sadists.

Referring to him as a "chicken shit" or simply bashing him because amazingly enough he's a human being who experiences internal issues isn't going to help his confidence or ego.




ToysAndTies -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 8:52:31 PM)

I find biting tends to be a great gateway from vanilla to more kink experiences, along with a bit of wrestling.  I suppose it's different being a top and trying to see if the other person is a bottom, but I try some playful pinning to see what reaction I get.  There's plenty of stuff that could open the door in a subtle way without beating up his confidence or trust...




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 9:05:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: DollFaceMania

guys arent the only ones who will say anything to get in somones pants.

maybe he is just chicken shit of the whole bdsm world. he never talks about it when i bring it up, never wants to go to play parties or anything.


Or maybe he just doesn't want to go.

Not being into BDSM, or play parties if you are into BDSM, aren't character flaws.


never said it was a character flaw.


quote:

ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I see the thread has taken the turn of going straight to the lowest possible common denominator when all I see is a scenario that I would say is a common of experience of quite a lot of sadists.

Referring to him as a "chicken shit" or simply bashing him because amazingly enough he's a human being who experiences internal issues isn't going to help his confidence or ego.


im not bashing him....i word things wrong a lot but thats how to makes sense to me.




DollFaceMania -> RE: He's too scared (1/4/2008 9:07:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToysAndTies

I find biting tends to be a great gateway from vanilla to more kink experiences, along with a bit of wrestling.  I suppose it's different being a top and trying to see if the other person is a bottom, but I try some playful pinning to see what reaction I get.  There's plenty of stuff that could open the door in a subtle way without beating up his confidence or trust...



he bites A LOT. and i love it. he just now started spanking me and we've been friends w/ benefits off and on for a very long time. what else can i do subtlly to open the door as you say.




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