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MasterRenegade77 -> Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 8:23:22 PM)

Where is all the tax payers money going as far as Illegal's                          This is horrible!!  Wake Up America
  Now .... I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts. 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77  



2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html  



3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html  



4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word d of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html



5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html  



7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html  



8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html  



9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html



10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html



11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht  <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht>;  



12. The National Policy Institute, 'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.' http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation. pdf



13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm  



14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States '. http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml



The total cost is a whopping .    $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR

Are we THAT stupid???  If this doesn't bother you then just delete the message.  If, on the other hand, if it does raise the hair on the back of your neck, I hope you forward it to every legal resident in the country including every representative in Washington, D.C. - five times a week for as long as it takes to restore some semblance of intelligence in our policies and enforcement thereof.






intro2submissive -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 8:27:54 PM)

im just going to stay out of this one.




MzMia -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 8:32:38 PM)

I have been talking about this for over a year.
 
Thanks for posting, a great thread.
 
I have been telling those struggling lately, to go to Mexico, sneak across the border
and pretend they are illegals, they will get more help.




thegirlincharge -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 8:41:53 PM)

Well, this certainly makes me even more grateful that I was born in the United States where my family has lived since the 17th century. Sure wouldn't want all those people hating me because I was born in the wrong country, impoverished, looking for some way to improve my life and chose to come to the United States to attempt to achieve that. WHEW!




MzMia -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 8:53:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thegirlincharge

Well, this certainly makes me even more grateful that I was born in the United States where my family has lived since the 17th century. Sure wouldn't want all those people hating me because I was born in the wrong country, impoverished, looking for some way to improve my life and chose to come to the United States to attempt to achieve that. WHEW!


Who mentioned the word "hate" here?
When did having an opinion and giving them when discussing topics, amount to hatred?
It's amusing when people put words in others mouths online, but I realize we all have

different levels when it comes to reading comprehension skills.
Yes, people are allowed to have opinions and idea's.




DomKen -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 9:24:50 PM)

Nice cut and paste job. Although it is traditional to include a link to the original. Otherwise people might think this was your original work which would violate the author's copyright which is a crime. Now I'm not going to say that commiting a crime to decry another crime is hypocritical but...

BTW the author had better not be counting the any cost for US citizens into that total. He does include one line item involving citizens in his list, point 5, so I hope he is honest enugh to exclude that sum from his claim but since the entirety of his points don't add up to claimed total and in several cases are likely overlapping it is impossible to tell from the numbers provided.




MzMia -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 9:31:40 PM)

Does anyone really know what the number is?
We all know that it is a high number, whether it adds up to 20 billion or 500 billion.




DomMeinCT -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/16/2007 10:05:37 PM)

Wow.  Did you look all of those up by yourself?
Admit it, you cut and pasted it from an email that someone else told you to forward.  Heh.

I've got an idea.  If we weren't involved in the Iraq War, we could save something like $611 billion.
Then maybe the cost of all those illegal immigrants wouldn't bother you so much.
(http://www.nationalpriorities.org/)

P.S.  I got that link all by myself.




ravennfyre -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 5:28:40 AM)

gee... maybe it's just me, but i'm thinkin' that you've got issues with illegal aliens...




pahunkboy -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 8:17:18 AM)

in-so-far as this glorifies, celebrates, and stregthens the industrial military prison complex- the issue is a double edge sword.

If tourism is in fact desirable- then these could be tourists who empty bedpans, mow lawns, and peel potatos.

Welfare reform -we did that- ok- so a state that doesnt require citizen status- well shoddy legislation needs fixed.

Being that corps run fake job ads to "prove" no workers "exist" - the touble with legal vs illegal is whom has deep pockets for an attorney.  Only the rich can afford lawyer costs- and who in the right mind can understand the legalese mumbo jumbo- doubletalk?

I am not so sure I want to be a schill be corporatists.

How ever this issue gets "resolved"  the peon must be careful that we peons aren't shooting ourself in the foot. 

? Comprende?




Stephann -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 8:59:52 AM)

Yawn.

The irony, is that the interests that such representatives represent would be hurt by the loss of this cheap labor.  This is why republican canditates talk alot about enforcing the border; yet doesn't really want to strangle their own golden geese.

Stephan




popeye1250 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 10:11:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ravennfyre

gee... maybe it's just me, but i'm thinkin' that you've got issues with illegal aliens...


Ahhh,.....yeah!
They're not supposed to be in the country.
You bet your ass I have "issues" with them!
But my biggest anger is directed at the louses who are in our govt lining their pockets instead of enforcing our immigration laws.
If they were doing their jobs this wouldn't be happening, would it?
And the figures I've seen say they cost the U.S. Taxpayers $92 Billion Dollars per year and that goes *up* every year!




MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 5:06:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Nice cut and paste job. Although it is traditional to include a link to the original. Otherwise people might think this was your original work which would violate the author's copyright which is a crime. Now I'm not going to say that commiting a crime to decry another crime is hypocritical but...

BTW the author had better not be counting the any cost for US citizens into that total. He does include one line item involving citizens in his list, point 5, so I hope he is honest enugh to exclude that sum from his claim but since the entirety of his points don't add up to claimed total and in several cases are likely overlapping it is impossible to tell from the numbers provided.


It was indeed Cut & Pasted from an e-mail I received hence there's no link to the original but I ascertained from the first & last paragraph that the author had no true interest in copyrights but rather getting the message out to us A/all....
What does it matter that the numbers don't quite line up the point is we're (the American people) paying for these "Illegal" Aliens I don't care if it's a dollar or 50 billion...




MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 5:14:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomMeinCT

Wow.  Did you look all of those up by yourself?
Admit it, you cut and pasted it from an email that someone else told you to forward.  Heh.

I've got an idea.  If we weren't involved in the Iraq War, we could save something like $611 billion.
Then maybe the cost of all those illegal immigrants wouldn't bother you so much.
(http://www.nationalpriorities.org/)

I happen to agree W/you about the war but I've posted on that in the past too...
PS No one had to nor did tell Me to forward or post about the Illegals I've posted on this before too check it out!!!

P.S.  I got that link all by myself.




MasterRenegade77 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 5:30:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ravennfyre

gee... maybe it's just me, but i'm thinkin' that you've got issues with illegal aliens...


Yes I do have issues with paying for "Illegal" aliens
Our forefathers put qoutas on immigration to America because they knew that if they didn't we'd be over-run & our ecomomy would end up in the toilet...(Like it's not already w/out any outside help)
Just like I don't think we should be the Worlds Police I neither believe we should be the Worlds Keeper...




thompsonx -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 9:21:56 PM)

MasterRenegade:
You failed to list the cost to the taxpayers for the air that these people breath.
thompson




DesertRat -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 9:35:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx
You failed to list the cost to the taxpayers for the air that these people breath.


Very good point. Also, the money we spend on the damned illegals would be better spent blowing up civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq. Our priorities are all fucked up.

Bob

(edited for content and to fit this screen)




greyarcher315 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 10:01:01 PM)

There is a solution to the illegals. Take away all the free stuff they get. Stop giving them welfare, medicare, medicaid, or any other type of aid beyond emergency medical aid(and i don't mean cancer, or any other long term life threatening condition). Fine the living daylights out of the companies that use illegals, so that there is no benefit to the corps for hiring them. Finally, change the law so that just because your parents snuck across the border and had you here, you don't get automatic citizanship. For that, at least one of your parents would have to be American, either by birth or by LEGAL immigration. Do that, and they will leave on their own, with nothing to gain here. Of course, no one in office has the guts to do this.
  Also, will you people stop trying to drag the war into every discussion about the faults of our government. its not the issue here.




DesertRat -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 10:15:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: greyarcher315
Also, will you people stop trying to drag the war into every discussion about the faults of our government. its not the issue here.


Dude! The war is always the issue! Especially when we're talking money. Deal with it.

Bob




greyarcher315 -> RE: Our Money goes where??? (12/17/2007 10:35:54 PM)

Thank you for proving why one can not have an intelligent debate around here. Some people can not stick to the OP subject.

But just to counter what you said,  even if the war never happened, it woould not change the wasted money going to support illegals. So, no, the war is not the issue, even when money is involved. 

If you feel the need to rant about the war, start a thread about it, please.

But why do i bother, no one will listen anyway. Oh well, i can always hope for an intelligent debate someday....




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