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removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 2:49:37 PM   
simplewhispers


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Status: offline 		assuming you believe in collaring, what would Master have to do for you to give it back? Personal boundries I am sure, but just curious as to what those might be.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 3:01:20 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		In my case, I can not think of anything that would cause me to return it, other than if he required me to.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 3:18:08 PM   
slavemaia


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ORIGINAL: simplewhispers

assuming you believe in collaring, what would Master have to do for you to give it back? Personal boundries I am sure, but just curious as to what those might be.


Our relationship is strictly monogamous on both sides. Were He or i to do otherwise it would be an immediate deal breaker. This is the only thing.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 3:32:05 PM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		When he collars me there is nothing he could do that would cause me to give it back. That is why I am not in any hurry to have it slipped on my neck. I find that there is this part of me that gives way that used to be there... that niggling voice that use to stand up for my rights with him... It makes no sense to me to listen to that voice anymore.

When one accepts a collar it is a symbol of the deeper commitment, and I am not a quitter, I just don't quit.

When one gets married they take these vows, and if one person ignores the vows it nullifies the agreement, I do not want any vows with him. I do not want any agreement he can nullify by doing something "wrong". (although I think of marriage as a deeper commitment because of the legal and familial obligations)

I do not know if that makes sense or not, but it is where I am. I love allowing him to be just as he is... here are some lyrics from a song called All The Same
 
I don't care no I wouldn't dare
To fix the twist in you
You've shown me eventually
What you'll do

I don't mind...
I don't care...
As long as you're here

Go ahead tell me you'll leave again
You'll just come back running
Holding your scarred heart in hand
It's all the same
And I'll take you for who you are
If you take me for everything
Do it all over again
It's all the same

Hours slide and days go by
Till you decide to come
And in between it always seems too long
All of a sudden

And I have the skill, yeah I have the will
To breathe you in while I can
However long you stay
Is all that I am
 
The more I have the attitude toward him that it is all the same, the more he treasures me... I love giving him my love..

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 12/12/2007 3:33:27 PM >

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 4:21:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		thank you  julia that was beautiful.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 4:36:13 PM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		He owns me and I will not give my collar back unless he requested I do so.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 5:09:34 PM   
spanklette


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Status: offline 		First, He would have to unscrew it and then He would have to pry it from my cold lifeless fingers.
 
In the literal sense, He's not ever getting His collar back. If we were to break up, this puppy is mine. It's worth is tied directly to our commitment. If the commitment is not worth anything, then neither is the collar...

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 5:38:51 PM   
slaveluci


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quote:

ORIGINAL: simplewhispers
assuming you believe in collaring, what would Master have to do for you to give it back?

Any one of the very few things He promised me He never would.  Before I became His, two non-negotiable hard limits were established and mutually agreed upon.  If He forced me to do either of them, He would be a liar and someone who totally violated my trust.  That would make Him NOT the Owner I initially become property of and would crush me, frankly. 

In addition, if He ever became a habitual liar who deceives me.  There is zero need for that.  He has nothing to hide as He is obviously free to do whatever He chooses in His life.  If He began lying/hiding to/from me, it would make me wonder just who He was and lessen my respect of the Man He is.

Behavior of the sort I just mentioned would pull the rug out from under what I believe His/my/our life to be and I couldn't accept it.  Honestly, I wouldn't accept it.  Not the "slaviest" fantasy answer but simply the truth...............luci

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 5:42:44 PM   
simplewhispers


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Status: offline 		thank you for the learning material folks. Continue on .

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/12/2007 10:08:01 PM   
adoracat


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Status: offline 		the situation has come up that i may relocate.  i dont want to, needless to say.

Daddy has stated VERY firmly that no matter where i am, i am his and will remain so.  and that my collars belong to me, with love from him, no matter what.

kitten

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 5:10:35 AM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		I would tell him that I am not bi after all.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 5:57:21 AM   
sambamanslilgirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: simplewhispers

assuming you believe in collaring, what would Master have to do for you to give it back? Personal boundries I am sure, but just curious as to what those might be.

don't comprehend the question.  why would Daddy and/or SO have to do anything to give it back to me?  hypothetically speaking, if my collars were to be removed, it's because they have released me but i wouldn't expect them to do anything re-collar me.


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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 6:04:28 AM   
justheather


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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl


don't comprehend the question. 


The OP''s question, as I understand it, is this:

What behavior on his or her (the collar-er) part would compel you (the collar-ee) to remove said collar (aka end the current relationship dynamic and potentially the relationship).

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:15:45 AM   
Maya2001


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Status: offline 		Breaching hard BDSM activities limits , stepping outside of a an monogamous relationship agreed to, or putting me in a position where I am forced to choose rather than discussing  for example when we first started talking I stated that did not want the relocate because I want to remain near my family and to be an involved grandparent, if after collared I may be agreeable with negiotation with agreement to allow me time to go visit on a regular basis, but being ordered to simply choose  him over my family would become a deal breaker.  

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:24:21 AM   
ghitaPVH


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Status: offline 		ok wait...is the question "under what circumstances would you end the realtionship with your Master/Dom?"

uhm...if he was to tell me he didnt want me around anymore....thats about it.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:28:42 AM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		When it wasn't working out any longer... when i wasn't pleasing and he wasn't interested in accepting my submission. 

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:29:33 AM   
RCdc


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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:39:54 AM   
decstorm37


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Status: offline 		My Master and i have agreed on certain things. Them being lying cheating and physical abuse outside of BDSM.  I told him from the begining that those are the only reason's i would walk away from anyone.  I don't like liers neither does He.  I can't stand cheaters He can't either.   If someone does physical abuse on me (outside of BDSM)  I'm gone  i don't hit in anger and will not let anyone hit me in anger.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 7:41:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anything that we agreed was a breech of trust between us and depending on the severity of it would be possible grounds for returning my collar.

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RE: removing the collar? - 12/13/2007 8:15:53 AM   
spanklette


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ORIGINAL: spanklette

First, He would have to unscrew it and then He would have to pry it from my cold lifeless fingers.
 
In the literal sense, He's not ever getting His collar back. If we were to break up, this puppy is mine. It's worth is tied directly to our commitment. If the commitment is not worth anything, then neither is the collar...


An addendum...Daddy has let me know that if I tried to return His collar my fingers would be cold and lifeless...

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