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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 8:08:05 AM   
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No matter what type of relationship it is they all take work and good communication to keep going. Just because there might be defined roles doesn't make the relationship any easier. Everyone must communicate and work out problems in a mature way for the relationship to survive.

Trust is essential in all relationships whether they be vanilla or D/s. The same qualities that make a vanilla relationship work also make a D/s one work. Everyone involved has to deal with problems as they arise, be honest, trustworthy and whatever else is decided upon. This is no different then a vanilla relationship. A relationship is a relationship and the no title or label on them makes one or more of them any harder or any easier.

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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 8:29:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Master96

I'm wondering about us, D/s people Is it easier than vanilla?


It's not a D/s relationship or Mainstream Relationship sort of thing of me.

For me.. It's easiest to be who I am in the given relationship I have as compared to pretending to be something I am not in a given relationship.

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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 9:00:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW

No matter what type of relationship it is they all take work and good communication to keep going. Just because there might be defined roles doesn't make the relationship any easier. Everyone must communicate and work out problems in a mature way for the relationship to survive.


Well said, sweetnurse! (Jeez, I find myself writing that a lot.

My own experience is that it's easier to start a D/s relationship because -- as another poster "well said" -- each person's role is at least generally defined. I've found first impressions are important; I and potential submissives pretty quickly have a good idea whether we want to continue exploring the relationship.

If the relationship blossoms, I haven't found keeping it going is any different from my past vanilla relationships.

My .02 zlotys. Your milage may vary.

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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 9:22:25 AM   
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No. We are all people, with needs that change and needs that don't. We have a tendency to seize what looks like the right relationship without finding out for sure if everything meshes.

And power agreements or not, there will be things you didn't discuss ahead of time that the other person has zero interest in and that had you known, you wouldn't have gotten involved with them.

My lesbian friends say it's harder to find someone who initiates sex, my male homosexual friends say it is harder to find a lasting relationship instead of a short term sexual based one.

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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 9:36:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007

Well all relationships  take work.  Relationships naturally  become more involved and complex as  the history develops. This is even true with friendships.

In my opinion, D/s relationships take more effort to maintain the dynamic. But more is expected of both parties than in a nilla, is it not?The benefits are alot bigger though. their is usually alot more trust, openess, and respect between the two involved. Doms tend to appreciate their subs more than husbands appreciate their wives from what i have seen. Subs tend to be more loyal to their dom, more willing to make them happy then  the vanilla counterparts.

For myself, it takes no effort to maintain the dynamic at all and more was expected of me in my vanilla marriage. The benefits seem bigger because they are more in tune with what makes me feel content, not because they are peculiar to D/s.

I trusted my husband, I was open with him, I respected him and was loyal to him. I was probably MORE willing to work to make him happy than I would M.


Thus the difference between nilla and D/s. I am alot more accepting of peoples kinks,fetishes, habits, desires, etc than my nilla counterpart. And i think the fact almost all in this lifestyle have a much higher level of acceptance of a partners desires, no matter how weird they seem to the outside world, give the relationship the ability to  reach a much higher level than   the best nilla relationship could ever manage.  The trust how many nilla people even after being married 10-20 years will let their partner tie them up? make them completely helpless? I could go on forever.

I would have trusted my husband to have tied and rendered me helpless... and my last (vanilla) partner was equally as open-minded and accepting of kinks and desires as any *D/s* person I've come across. He has plenty of his own; not all kinks fall into the D/s arena.

Nilla relationships to me take less work but they never reach the level a D/s relationship can.  Unfortunately most nillas see it as the opposite. they see the subs as weak , and the Doms as abusive, over bearing,  self centered.  My response to this( and you will have to forgive i only imply  the most common combination here) : " It takes a strong man to make a woman submit to him and it takes a strong woman to  follow a strong man. "

All the relationships I've had have taken *work* or effort. I couldn't quantify *effort or work* because they've all been so very different. I couldn't lay my D/s relationship alongside the one with the father of my sprogs; there's simply no comparison in that way. It certainly didn't take less anything.

I'm a combination of strong and weak...and I follow a man that can make me do what I want (as the saying goes).

I do agree that SOME people see those in D/s relationships in the way you described but that's not restricted to *nilla* folk.

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RE: Relationships! - 12/9/2007 9:59:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Master96

I'm wondering about us, D/s people Is it easier than vanilla?

Superficially, it maybe easy when one commands and the other obeys! Do you think so?


Edited for spelling


You'd think it would be, but all you have to do is spend a decent amount of time paying attention to people's track record (hell look back a few years on the archives and you'll get a good insight into most of the people on here I think) to see that its not any easier.  I'm on the fence on whether its harder or just different.

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