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RE: Beer. - 12/7/2007 7:39:55 PM   
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my favorite beers are Ringnes (norway) Dixie(louisianna) and Guinness(scotland)

And Rausch bier(germany)
I think it is done by smoked hops..

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RE: Beer. - 12/7/2007 7:43:04 PM   
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i like beer, lemme know when its done!

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RE: Beer. - 12/7/2007 8:28:18 PM   
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there are lots of sites that explain it.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Q7q&q=%22how+to+brew+beer%22+grain&btnG=Search

I read some of the first page and that is good advice.

If you are serious and plan on it being more than one time hobby, then get the kegs and the co2 tank.  bottling is a pain in the ass.

Someone said clean you have to be pristine clean or you will turn out nice batches of vinegar.

I woiuld recommend using german 2 row grain, dont putz with sryup make sure your water is at least run through a charcoal filter unless you happen to be lucky enough to get it from a mountain stream.

If you want top really get into it it will cost you close to a grend for stainless kettles, cracker, sparge, tanks, carboids, etc etc etc but in the end you will be able to make an octoberfest brew for about 25 bucks per 5 gallons.  About 1/3 the cost of buying it.


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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 12:58:00 AM   
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my favorite beers are Ringnes (norway) Dixie(louisianna) and Guinness(scotland)

And Rausch bier(germany)
I think it is done by smoked hops..

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Guinness Ron is Irish, not Scottish, just by way of information. However I do recommend the Scottish Gillespies, and the Irish Beamish. Rausch? Here's a man of good taste...


'Problem with Guiness, Murphys, Mackesons, Beamish, Double Maxim etc stouts and ales is that they're all mass produced stuff for your average bloke.

Find yourself a village in Northern England, and you'll find an ale brewed and served only in that village: they're not brewed for mass production, they're brewed for the taste and the love of ale.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 2:30:01 AM   
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Am ...ditching the lager..... the drink of my youth..stuff like Colt 45, Hemmling, Orangiboom, Swan, Harp and returning to beer....stuff like dogbolter ( bruces beer )



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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 3:20:31 AM   
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rule of thumb, if you hold it up to the light and its not so foggy you cant see throught it its not a truly great beer.


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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 4:06:44 AM   
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I'm here because I heard someone called Guinness Scottish

so, whose getting their ass kicked first?

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 5:09:23 AM   
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Guiness might be of irish origin originally, but as far as I am aware it is 'made up' into what we drink near Runcorn/Widnes in England and is definately not the taste of guiness.The nearest I can get to that taste is the bottled guiness which is not quite as thick, more of a sharp drink, which I was told was nearer the mark.

Stouts are good, that is when you can find a decent one, 'Black Wytch' and 'Mackesons' come to mind, oh and bottled Guiness, there are others, but I drink for taste not effect and am very fussy with my beer.

Beer, what a wonderful subject!

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 6:14:29 AM   
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I'm here because I heard someone called Guinness Scottish

so, whose getting their ass kicked first?
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hey theres a line up...

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 7:46:00 AM   
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stella41b wrote: I don't know about the States but in Europe many people favour beers made with soft water coming from mountain areas. [...] If you're not sure about the quality of your water I'd consider using bottled spring water, the big 5 litre bottles. It's added expense, but you're almost sure to have a decent brew.

But bottled water is invariably very hard.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 7:48:36 AM   
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Aneirin wrote: Guiness might be of irish origin originally, but as far as I am aware it is 'made up' into what we drink near Runcorn/Widnes in England and is definately not the taste of guiness.

Nope.  All the Guinness sold in the UK is brewed in Dublin.  They used to brew it at Queen's Park in London but they closed that down a few years ago.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:00:39 AM   
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mnottertail wrote: And Rausch bier(germany)
I think it is done by smoked hops..

Rauchbier (`smoke beer') is traditionally made by heating the mash (is that the word I want?) by dropping hot rocks in it.  Contact with the hot rocks scalds the malt, resulting in the smoky taste.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:05:07 AM   
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RealOne wrote: If you are serious and plan on it being more than one time hobby, then get the kegs and the co2 tank. bottling is a pain in the ass.

If you're serious about your beer, the last thing you want to do is store it under carbon dioxide.  It dissolves in the beer and makes it more acidic, which screws up the flavour.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:06:05 AM   
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stella41b wrote: I don't know about the States but in Europe many people favour beers made with soft water coming from mountain areas. [...] If you're not sure about the quality of your water I'd consider using bottled spring water, the big 5 litre bottles. It's added expense, but you're almost sure to have a decent brew.

But bottled water is invariably very hard.



collecting rain water is free, and it keeps a long time, and it is usually soft, in CA it might be fairly acid, and one should let it settle and siphon it thru filters.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:08:19 AM   
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Sierra Nevada Branded Beers are among my favorites. I really like the Porter when i can find it. 

I've looked into some home brewer kits for fun.

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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:41:55 AM   
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I wish you the best in the brewing endeavour!  It's something that I want to try, as well as meade, when I finally get to a place with enough space to devote to some brewing. 

In the meanwhile, I highly recommend the products of the Great Lakes Brewing Company in Cleveland: http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/whatsOnTap.php (Edmund Fitzgerald Porter... Mmmm).  Bell's, in Kalamazoo, MI: http://www.bellsbeer.com/index.php/home is good though there seems to be a lack of consistency from batch to batch.  Michigan and the Great Lakes are a great place to find some awesome micros!


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RE: Beer. - 12/8/2007 8:04:28 PM   
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....Guinness....good all around cure for what ails ya!

On a retro note, I remember my dad and his buddies hanging out on the lake drinking Drewry's...anyone remember that beer?

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RE: Beer. - 12/18/2007 1:57:44 PM   
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nothing better imo than a nice marzan at 45 degrees!

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RE: Beer. - 12/18/2007 2:38:28 PM   
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Beer....First off you might want to check out ratebeer.com  There is a huge section dedicated to homebrew.

Stay away from the kits...You probably will still have to utilize some malt extracts but hops and such can be added to impart a specific tast that you are looking for.

I dig hops, double and triple I.P.A's....Big bad ass Barley wines and huge stouts.  Can't beat a tasty Belgian....But I once beat a large breasted pasty Belgian.

Anywhooooo....Greatest beers....Dogfish Head 90 minute IPA.....Three Floyd's Alpha King.....For a tasty relatively widely distributed stout, get ahold of some North Coast Old Rasputin.  Two great tasty examples...Bell's Java Stout, or their Expedition Stout...Soooo tasty, these brews fuckin' rock.

Baltic porters yummy. Tooo many beers....So many rears...So little time. 

Good luck and good brewing and screwing.

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RE: Beer. - 12/18/2007 3:19:50 PM   
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Brewing is one of those things that is sooooo much easier to do if you have someone show you the first time.  And if you hook up with an experienced brewer, you can try out all their equipment without having to pony up alot of money.

I would suggest starting here, at HomeBrewTalk:  http://www.homebrewtalk.com/

If you go here, and scroll down, you will find the addresses and phone numbers of some home brew stores in Santa Barbara:  http://cryptobrewology.com/homebrew-suppliers.php?California .  Usually (although certainly not always), hb stores will have a lot of contact info.

Your local homebrew club calls themselves "The Santa Barbeerians".  Their latest newsletter is here:  http://www.santabarbeerians.com/newsletter/Barbeerian2007-12.pdf .  Their homepage is http://www.santabarbeerians.com

One piece of advice that cannot be said enough.... CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN.  Otherwise you will find yourself exclaiming, "WHEW!  SKUNK BEER! AARRRGHHH!!!!!!!!!"

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