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Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/2/2007 9:42:48 PM   
cyberdude611


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Status: offline 		It was 51%-49% against the reforms....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution
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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/2/2007 9:44:28 PM   
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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/2/2007 9:47:55 PM   
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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 12:28:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.

I sure hope this means we can welcome Venezuela back into the fold of civilized nations, because Venezuelan women are gorgeous!

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 12:33:35 AM   
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It was 51%-49% against the reforms....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution


But Vlad and the Kremlin hardliners smoked the opposing ''color revolution.''



Long live the concept of nation-states...Long live nationalism.....



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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 12:36:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow my mother and i voted today where i live, and everyone at the consolate thought we were going to lose.  you cannot imagine the kind of happiness this gives me, hopefully tomorrow they don't say it was all just a sick joke and he's still in office. 

hehe and i just ran down to wake my parents and tell them the good news, and they already know.  haha what a good little Venezuelan i am

http://origin.mercurynews.com/news/ci_7616646?nclick_check=1

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 12:48:19 AM   
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It was 51%-49% against the reforms....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/venezuela_constitution


But Vlad and the Kremlin hardliners smoked the opposing ''color revolution.''



Long live the concept of nation-states...Long live nationalism.....

- R



Yep. Unfortunately democracy has not taken much hold in the Russian Federation like it has in Ukraine or Georgia.

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 2:21:59 AM   
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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 2:59:55 AM   
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Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.



but, but, but.... I was informed he was an evil communist dictator?

maybe they dont make 'em like they used to? or maybe I have been misinformed by the Murdoch media?

E

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 3:18:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.



but, but, but.... I was informed he was an evil communist dictator?

maybe they dont make 'em like they used to? or maybe I have been misinformed by the Murdoch media?

E


Hopefully he will abide by the vote. Would it honestly surprise you if he didn't, somehow, though?

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 3:21:14 AM   
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since our lot do as they please regardless of what they promised and regardless of popular opinion, it wouldnt surprise me if any politician anywhere in the world did the same. If breaking promises and going against the view of the people makes one a monstrous tyrant, then I guess we might want to fix the panes in our own glass houses before throwing stones at someone else's?

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 3:34:48 AM   
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Hi Level

since our lot do as they please regardless of what they promised and regardless of popular opinion, it wouldnt surprise me if any politician anywhere in the world did the same. If breaking promises and going against the view of the people makes one a monstrous tyrant, then I guess we might want to fix the panes in our own glass houses before throwing stones at someone else's?

E


Hi E.... I agree with much of what you said, but I do believe in multi-tasking ; working on ourselves, and tossing those rocks elsewhere, as needed.

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 4:48:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Level

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.



but, but, but.... I was informed he was an evil communist dictator?

maybe they dont make 'em like they used to? or maybe I have been misinformed by the Murdoch media?

E


Hopefully he will abide by the vote. Would it honestly surprise you if he didn't, somehow, though?


He can always appeal to the US supreme court.They have no problem overturning a vote count,and intstalling someone instead....


Or ,like our guy,he could just write executive orders and skirt the process all together....

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 6:16:30 AM   
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Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.




      Cool.  Who would have expected Chavez to have more class than Al Gore?

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 6:44:57 AM   
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Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.




     Cool.  Who would have expected Chavez to have more class than Al Gore?


And more class than bush had to avoid rigging the vote.

Once again the chicken little brigade was wrong per usual.

Ron  

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 7:04:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		As I look into my crystal ball with my all seeing eye…what’s this thru the fog?….why I think I see Chavez accusing interference and voter fraud in the election by the Evil United States.
He throws out the election results and demands a new election. After months of anti-US rhetoric…. chest thumping…. threats to withhold oil, which raises oil prices in the US, and gives him more profit per gallon…he calls for another election with plenty of money to buy votes.
Butch

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 8:33:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chavez knows better than to rig a 'sure thing.'  This was a stunning, and utterly unexpected defeat.

Three years from now, he won't be so foolish.  I'll take anyone's bet that come 2012, he'll have pushed through some other type of 'reform.'  This is why he made the referendum today; to ensure he has the time and opportunity to ram it through, when gentle pushing doesn't work.

His next move will be to institute a Judas; a parliamentary leader who was his 'friend' to only 'turn' on him, and cut off the funding going from Chavez's hands to the masses.  After six months without government handouts, his Judas buddy will be found funneling money to US interests (or even revealed as a CIA agent) and his referendum will pass with 85%+.

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 9:15:59 AM   
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Hopefully he will abide by the vote. Would it honestly surprise you if he didn't, somehow, though?


I never bought into the anti-Chavez propaganda like that.

I think *real* deal killer here, was the whole Central Bank change, and there's NO WAY that that would have ever happened.

EVERYONE listens to their banker. EVERYONE.



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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 9:19:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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Actually no, he already conceded that he lost.




Cool. Who would have expected Chavez to have more class than Al Gore?


I would again caution against citing UN-AUDITABLE RESULTS as "proof" of anything except ignorance of basic accounting principles.

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RE: Chavez loses vote in Venezuela! - 12/3/2007 9:38:17 AM   
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Dang.
 
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