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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 11/29/2007 2:03:22 PM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		It takes a simple majority of the house to impeach…but the trial for impeachment takes place in the Senate and requires a 2/3 majority.
Impeachable offences are…”Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”

Now imagine 2/3 of anyone agreeing on what that means let alone the Senate… forget it.

A petition will have no legal weight and is useless and a waste of time. Instead call your member of the house they along with the members the judicial committee are the only ones that can impeach the President.
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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 11/29/2007 2:28:55 PM   
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Though I *really* want  :Popcorn: or even :FloggingDeadHorse:





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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 11/29/2007 3:19:38 PM   
Muttling


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Status: offline 		How many of you actually KNOWS what impeachment is?


The definition is very simple....A verb meaning to bring charges against.


Clinton was impeached but the charges did not hold and he was acquitted of the charge he lied under oath.  He was successfully impeached in that they successfully brought the case before Congres who served as the court, but he was acquitted and they did not get a guilty verdict.

What specific criminal act are you going to charge Bush with?   Failure to hold to his oath of office is not a crime.  Lying to the American people is not a crime.  What is the criminal act that you intend to charge him with and what evidence do you have that will prove his crime "beyond a reasonable doubt".   (Please note, it can't be upon a proponderance of the evidence as that's the standard for a civil court ruling.  A criminal ruling by THE CONGRESS would be required for successful conviction during an impeachment proceeding and it has to be 99.9% certain that he comitted a crime AS DEFINED by U.S. law.)

The best chance for impeachment is against Cheney for his involvement in the Valery Plame case, but we saw how difficult that was in a traditional court room.  Imagine how impossible it would be to simply bring charges with Congress serving as the court.

Criminal law has very little to do with morality and impeachment is a criminal law proceeding.

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 4:04:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also take a look at:   http://impeachforpeace.org/
Any citizen can directly bring a charge of impeachment - it's been done before.

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Sign the petition to impeach Bush and take other actions at:
www.democrats.com/organize

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 4:07:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ClitCutter

Also take a look at:   http://impeachforpeace.org/
Any citizen can directly bring a charge of impeachment - it's been done before.

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub
Sign the petition to impeach Bush and take other actions at:
www.democrats.com/organize


Did you notice the post date on that thread, compadre?

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 4:51:47 PM   
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The Monkey lied, LOTS of people are needlessly being killed {war is ALWAYS needless} and he hasn't apologized for being a moron.

Being a moron is not an impeachable offense. Besides, if Bush is such a dolt, what does that say of Democrats who couldn't beat him in an election?

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 6:33:29 PM   
subrob1967


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Sign my petition, it's about as relevant as your impeachment petition, and probably has more signatures

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 10:58:36 PM   
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If you won't impeach for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, that means that YOU'VE GIVEN THE EXECUTIVE CARTE BLANCHE.

What WON'T they do, secure in the knowledge that they are above the law?



Exactly ..

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 3/31/2008 11:06:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sign the petition to look into his hanky panky and prosecute him for it AFTER he leaves office-and no longer has presidential perogative to protect him from it.

You people are so freaking impractical it's not even funny. If you want this shit to end-you need to make an example of someone-so the rest don't think they can get away with it too.

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 1:08:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Sign the petition to look into his hanky panky and prosecute him for it AFTER he leaves office-and no longer has presidential perogative to protect him from it.

You people are so freaking impractical it's not even funny. If you want this shit to end-you need to make an example of someone-so the rest don't think they can get away with it too.


Very and I do mean

VERY

Well said


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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 1:15:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kdsub
People are tired of all the fighting and want Congress to work together for our common good…
Butch


As in what agree?  Shit we certainly dont need 3 branches of government if thats the case.  May as well get rid of th eother 2 and just let the executive stand that way there will be no more fighting and we can all live in happy land.


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ORIGINAL: joanus

OMG not this garbage again......Look Back in 2001 every single one of you where howling for blood and ready to go to war, now that the whole thing has gone to pot your blaming Bush. Now its true he's screwed up pleanty, but if it was Gore in the White House you'd be blaming him. Every body screws up we're only human, but to take a mistake (talking to the voters on this one) and and try to rectify it like this is just adding fuel to the fire.


it wasnt a mistake.  Plans were on the table before the first iraq invasion.

Yeh its the same people who got suckered into believing 911, and wmds.

Like it or not those assholes

LIED

They took us to war on

LIES

Since when are lies a "screw up".   I would really like to know what dictionary they are using in the school system now days.





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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 4:08:26 AM   
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Sign the petition to look into his hanky panky and prosecute him for it AFTER he leaves office-and no longer has presidential perogative to protect him from it.


There is no protection for felons.

The "Loyal Bushies" are literally "above the law". They are a different class of people than you, the "Ruling Class".

Get used to being a subject, slave.



< Message edited by farglebargle -- 4/1/2008 4:09:18 AM >

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 1:34:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		In about 9 months President Bush is leaving office. Who will you libs out there blame then?? When the Democrats tok over control of the House and Senate 3 years ago the price of gas was about $2.50 per gallon. They promised to lower it when they took over. It is now a dollar higher..Blame someone else for wht is wrong with this Country..

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 1:55:38 PM   
Pyrrsefanie


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Status: offline 		Oh for fuck's sake, people, HE'S ALMOST OUT OF OFFICE.  WHY FUCKING BOTHER.

If you want to arrest/punish him for what he's done then figure out some other sort of legal precedings, but by the time an impeachment hearing gets underway, someone else is going to be sitting in the White House...

Where's my "wahmbulance" smiley?  Dammit!

Also, Pinksugarsub, you have the most annoyingly huge and vividly colored text I've yet to see on these boards.  Bravo.


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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 4:42:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Oh for fuck's sake, people, HE'S ALMOST OUT OF OFFICE.  WHY FUCKING BOTHER.

If you want to arrest/punish him for what he's done then figure out some other sort of legal precedings, but by the time an impeachment hearing gets underway, someone else is going to be sitting in the White House...



It's called a Grand Jury.

The problem is that the UNITED STATES ATTORNEYS who are responsible for bringing the Bush Gang to Justice for their crimes have all been fired and replaced with crazy-religious-fundamentalists proven loyal TO the Bush Gang.

They are "Above the Law". There is no chance of any appropriate legal sanction for their crimes.



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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 10:58:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		After reading some of the comments, one can see that the personal devastation of Bush Derangement Syndrome is as painful to watch as cancer, alcoholism, or a Ben Affleck movie. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/1/2008 11:05:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who can be fired and replaced by the next president. Vote democratic.

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/2/2008 4:51:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

In about 9 months President Bush is leaving office. Who will you libs out there blame then?? When the Democrats tok over control of the House and Senate 3 years ago the price of gas was about $2.50 per gallon. They promised to lower it when they took over. It is now a dollar higher..Blame someone else for wht is wrong with this Country..



Don't fall for the APPEARANCE of an opposition party. The DNC is just as culpable as the RNC. Mitnick was deprived due process for 5 years on Clinton's watch -- but he wasn't tortured. Discussions of the felony crime of torture aside --

You're talking about POLITICS. I'm not talking about POLITICS.

I'm talking about THE LAW.

Bush BROKE THE LAW.

Like Martha Stewart BROKE THE LAW. Martha Stewart was indicted by Grand Jury, arrested, tried, found guilty of the crime of making a material misstatement to a Government Agent in violation of 18 USC 1001, and IMPRISONED.

Like Marion Jones BROKE THE LAW. Marion Jones was indicted by Grand Jury, arrested, tried, found guilty of the crime of making a material misstatement to a Government Agent in violation of 18 USC 1001 and IMPRISONED.

George Bush BROKE THE LAW.

Why wouldn't you hold George Bush to the same standards as Marion Jones and Martha Stewart?

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/3/2008 8:17:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The impeachment fervor amuses me all to hell. Congressional Donkeys know there are no grounds for impeachment but keep tossing out red meat to placate the packs of ravenous, slavering hounds known as their base.

Pissant idiots!

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RE: Sign the Petition to Impeach Bush - 4/3/2008 8:20:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

Sign the petition to impeach Bush and take other actions at:
 
www.democrats.com/organize
 
pinksugarsub


No.

DV's  Fox

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