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Real0ne -> RE: Fair and Balanced? (11/28/2007 6:18:49 PM)
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Most likely the same one that exposed the government in 911 atrocities
Ky; how bout waco? any pulitzers there?
Murrah?
Northbrook?
nope no p8ulitzers there either.
Not the same thing at all, even assuming your conspiracy theories have much validity.
The Soviet Gulag was so secret that it's very existence was denied for many years. and the individual camps were certainly rarely known. In addition, the type of activities that occurred in the Gulag were certainly much different than anything that has occurred in Gitmo.
The only "similarity" in the "torture" is the false comparison of Gitmo with the Gulag. It is the "dumbing down" of the morality of real torture such as occurred in the real Gulag.
To me, this moral equivalency is reprehensible, much more so than anything that has occurred in Gitmo. What it does is belittle and discount the murder, slavery, torture and political repression suffered by millions ---- MILLIONS --- of innocent men and women who were forced into the Gulags.
Firm
So your point then is that because the torture "isnt quite as bad" as the gulag that means it doesnt count until what, its entirely worse than the gulag? In light of all the evidence it seems to me you and rich want to discount all the valuable research and astute overservations she has made by basically pissing in the wind. espeicailly since we have halliburton confirming it all? IMO she has done an excellent expose where she even lists her references.
Halliburton Confirms Concentration Camps Already Constructed
On February 17, 2006, in a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld spoke of the harm being done to the country’s security, not just by the enemy, but also by what he called “news informers” who needed to be combated in “a contest of wills.”
In 2002 Attorney General John Ashcroft announced his desire to see camps for U.S. citizens deemed to be “enemy combatants.”
A Defense Department document, entitled the “Strategy for Homeland Defense and Civil Support,” has set out a military strategy against terrorism that envisions an “active, layered defense” both inside and outside U.S. territory. In the document, the Pentagon pledges to “transform U.S. military forces to execute homeland defense missions in the . . . U.S. homeland.” The strategy calls for increased military reconnaissance and surveillance
The Washington Post reported on February 15, 2006 that the National Counterterrorism Center’s (NCTC) central repository holds the names of 325,000 terrorist suspects, a fourfold increase since fall of 2003. A Pentagon official said the Counterintelligence Field Activity’s TALON program has amassed files on antiwar protesters.
Shortly after Bush orchestrated 9/11, he issued "Military Order Number One", which empowered him to detain any noncitizen as an international terrorist or enemy combatant. Today that order extends to U.S. citizens as well.
325,000 Names on Terrorism List
Rights Groups Say Database May Include Innocent People
By Walter Pincus and Dan Eggen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, February 15, 2006; Page A01
The National Counterterrorism Center maintains a central repository of 325,000 names of international terrorism suspects or people who allegedly aid them, a number that has more than quadrupled since the fall of 2003, according to counterterrorism officials.
News Gathering Is Illegal Under New Patriot Act ll
The second Patriot Act is a mirror image of powers that Julius Caesar and Adolf Hitler gave themselves. Whereas the First Patriot Act only gutted the First, Third, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, and seriously damaged the Seventh and the Tenth, the Second Patriot Act reorganizes the entire Federal government as well as many areas of state government under the dictatorial control of the Justice Department, the Office of Homeland Security and the FEMA NORTHCOM military command. The Domestic Security Enhancement Act 2003, also known as the Second Patriot Act is by its very structure the definition of dictatorship.
Creator of Patriot Act Criticizes Enemy Combatant Detentions
By Jeralyn, Section Terror Detainees
Posted on Sun Nov 30, 2003 at 05:35:35 AM EST
Viet Dinh is a law professor and former top aide to Attorney General John Ashcroft. He is largely credited with being the author or chief architect of the Patriot Act. Dinh has left the government's employ and is now expressing serious concerns about the Bush Admninistration's detention policies and treatment of enemy combatants. Specifically, Dinh says the detention of Jose Padilla is "flawed"
We are now under military law!
chertoff: We need to debate a long-term and sustainable architecture for the process of determining when, why and for how long someone may be detained as an enemy combatant, and what judicial review should be available," he said.
Bush Moves Toward Martial Law
Written by Frank Morales
Thursday, 26 October 2006
Photo: Indymedia.orgIn a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law (1). It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President's ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions.
Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."
President Bush seized this unprecedented power on the very same day that he signed the equally odious Military Commissions Act of 2006. In a sense, the two laws complement one another. One allows for torture and detention abroad, while the other seeks to enforce acquiescence at home, preparing to order the military onto the streets of America. Remember, the term for putting an area under military law enforcement control is precise; the term is "martial law."
Now I am not going to look up every point this woman makes for those of you who insist on sticking your heads in the sand.
One question remains; if the congress was duped into passing bills their conscience went against, then why have they not corrected it since everyone now knows what it contained?
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