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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 2:29:20 PM

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They had a special on the Discovery Channel about the sun and they showed that it has in fact increased in temperature and has become more violent. This is also backed up by NASA which has pictures of the sun back in 1970-something and compared it to 2006 and there is an obvious difference.

Another fraud in this whole thing is Al Gore. Do you have any idea how his family made their money? OIL!!!! His father made crooked deals with Armand Hammer, the former CEO of Occidental Petroleum. Hammer, a suspected communist, also had numerous shady deals with the Soviet Union, Venezuela, Columbia, and Libya. Gore thinks he can wash his hands from that mess by selling the stock when his father died. Yet he kept the money. Even then Gore Jr was involved in negotiating deals for oil pipelines from the oil fields of Azerbaijan through Turkey.

Then look at some other big liberals like Michael Moore who has stock in Halliburton and other big oil companies.

Everyone one of these elite environmentalists have their hands dripping with oil and no one seems to care or take notice at all! It's all a crock! And the people buy their BS hook, line, and sinker.

Funny how you dont hear about this stuff on mainstream media. You have to research it yourself. The elites have the truth buried deep. But if you want to keep on believing the BS these elitists spew....be my guest. But people with a brain will continue to question every one of their moves.

Take a look at some of Gore's oil deals.... Remember he won a nobel prize for this BS...
http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntc81768.htm
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20000522/silverstein
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=468
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2007/718/37287

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:10:54 PM

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Armand Hammer? A suspected communist?

LOLOLOLOLOFUCKINGL....

I'll do the fuckin' jokes here; pal............................

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:14:18 PM

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Ignore the facts all you like...

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:23:21 PM

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Which facts might that be?

The fact that he was equivalent to Lucky Luciano when you needed to deal with dockworkers during WWII?

If you wanted to deal with Russia (even our US government) you went to Armand Hammer to grease shit up, and he was well paid for it; no.......I lived when he was somebody, and I gotta tell you he was as textbook a capitalst as J. Pierpoint Morgan, George Soros, Warren Buffet, Andrew Carniege, or John fuckin Rockefeller.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:37:11 PM

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My point was that you have Al Gore flying around the world in his private jet using up more energy than most of us will use in a lifetime preaching about conservationism and how evil oil companies and yet his family made a fortune off big oil.

And you completely ignore that fact.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:44:36 PM

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quote:Current predictions of future global temperature increases use computer models of the largest physical system on earth, that have several uncontrolled inputs with huge error bands that can interact in non linear ways. The models are simplified in many ways because of the limits of computer power. You have emotional humans that decide on just what compromises to make - and these choices can greatly skew the results.

To those whe believe global warming is man made: is the above quote wrong ?
If so in what way ?

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RE: Founder of TC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:44:54 PM

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I don't think the polar bears and 5 legged frogs are going to believe him.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:52:09 PM

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wait a fuckin' sec here---you are forcing me to ignore facts....

you said, as if it was a fuckin' fact:

Hammer, a suspected communist, also had numerous shady deals with the Soviet Union, Venezuela, Columbia, and Libya.

Not bloody fucking likely..............that he was suspected of being a communist by anything other than shitbreathers, if it is so, then you have to add to this list:

Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon
George H. W. Bush (also a big oil fuck)
particularly.....

and in general, any president, congress or body that dealt with the soviet union, since the time of lenin right up until the fucker cakked in what, like 1990-1980 or so.

You may bluster to your hearts content, and string together severala quasi-correct assumptions, and stick in absolute boldface bullshit in the middle of it, call the whole thing facts, but you are gonna find that I will comment mostly on the buillshit..............

Cyberdude11 IS FORCING YOU TO BELIEVE BULLSHIT!!!! (ain't that how you would title these sort of posts?)

You may be unique in the fact that you are the only person in the whole fuckin world that believes that Armand Hammer was a communist.
Note, I did not disagree that oiI was the source of fortune for the Gore family, nor did I disagree that it is also the source of fortune for the Bush family...........

I will point out simply that though both Mssrs Bush and Gore got there by the same means, they have different ends.........

Who, prithee, is ignoble, and who; prithee, is not?

Aye, there's the rub......lay off the tu quoque shit. It will not advance an argument.

Ron

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 3:58:02 PM

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People really need to start getting familiar with the difference between "weather" and "climate". They are actually vastly divergent things.

The relationship between the two was well summed up by that noted epigrammatist, Anonymous: "Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get."

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 4:17:08 PM

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Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming.

Well, damn: We're busted. It was all a huge practical joke to see if we could get everyone to go back to living 18-century style. You have to admit it was an impressively organized scam. Getting hundreds of IPCC scientists to toe the line was no picnic! And the Nobel committee--who knew we'd get them to play along? And don't forget that cover story in National Geographic. They take their accuracy so damn seriously, we had to twist lots of arms to coax them into being part of the joke.

We had everyone fooled for so long, but then came along that pesky Weather Channel guy . . .

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 4:20:34 PM

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I dont see George W. Bush going around the world preaching conservationism. Sure Bush made money on oil. When did i ever say he didnt? Lots of Republicans did. But Republicans are not cruising around the world screaming that the sky is falling like the Democrats are.

As for Hammer, a guy who specifically said he has "Gore in his back pocket" did have a lot of communist friends in the Soviet Union. And his father, Julius Hammer was a founding member of the Communist Party USA after the SLP (Socialist Labor Party) split.

You think Im the only one who thinks this? Man.....read some history, Ron.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 4:22:30 PM

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Well, lets slaughter the communist bastards, and start following the money...

Who exactly will profit if the world warms up?

Hawaiian shirt manufacturers-----that's the fuckers; there they are!!!!

Death to the Hawaiian shirt manufacturers!!!!

What if they are just dead, fuckin', wrong? Would pulling the shit in a little, showing a little reserve kill anyone, personally?

Just a thought.

Ron

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 4:22:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611
It is only logical that when the sun increases in heat, our atmosphere is going to increase in temperature as well. The "sun spots" are disappearing. Sun spots are the cool dark areas of the sun's surface. When they disappear, the sun's surface temperature increases.

The solar cycle (sunspot cycle) runs on an 11-year period (we're currently on the solar min). Do you have evidence of an 11-year cycle of the earth's temperature?

For some cool info on solar weather, see the Space Environment Center at: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 5:05:21 PM

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You can't destroy the planet. It must be refreshing to have an ego that HUGE that you think you can destroy a PLANET!!!

The opposite is not true, however.

The planet can destroy us.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 5:17:18 PM

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It is science; the science of meteorology.

Right there he disqualifies himself. It's called CLIMATOLOGY. It figures a Meteorologist would fuck up the distinction.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 6:01:44 PM

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What do you think, red or green beanies with white propellors on top?

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 6:40:31 PM

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Rainbow colored, with each panel being a different primary color.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 8:56:00 PM

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I dont see George W. Bush going around the world preaching conservationism. Sure Bush made money on oil. When did i ever say he didnt? Lots of Republicans did. But Republicans are not cruising around the world screaming that the sky is falling like the Democrats are.

As for Hammer, a guy who specifically said he has "Gore in his back pocket" did have a lot of communist friends in the Soviet Union. And his father, Julius Hammer was a founding member of the Communist Party USA after the SLP (Socialist Labor Party) split.

You think Im the only one who thinks this? Man.....read some history, Ron.

listen, if your father was a wastrel cocksucker, it doesn't necessarily follow that you are...

Ummmmmmmmmmmm....heres the thing dude, the entire fuckoree hinges on the fact that this shitbreather wouldn't know conservatism if it hit him in the fucking ass (that is your boy George Bush and his ilk) you all sashay out here and pose as fucking conservatives and then say throw a couple dead dogs in the trough and some tomatoes and hamburger-----and it is a treat...........no, I think not by a damn sight.You are actually trying to beat the shit out of Gore because he is holding conservative principles---------waltz me thru this, and tell me how a bankrupt fuckwad that chokes on a pretzel, has abysmal luck in dealing with foreign policy, cant control spending, is a coward, ------but this fucking conservative democrat makes you puke? Whoa!!! Hold em up pal

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 9:36:00 PM

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"Dastardly scientists"? "Create in allusion of rapid global warming"? Is this a hoax, or merely a dumass?

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel and a meteorologist has gone on a rant against global warming and the alarmists. Here is what he wrote in an article and he'll be on CNN later to explain his comments further....

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming.

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RE: Founder of TWC says Global Warming is a scam - 11/9/2007 10:13:34 PM

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Well, lets slaughter the communist bastards, and start following the money...

Who exactly will profit if the world warms up?

Hawaiian shirt manufacturers-----that's the fuckers; there they are!!!!

Death to the Hawaiian shirt manufacturers!!!!

What if they are just dead, fuckin', wrong? Would pulling the shit in a little, showing a little reserve kill anyone, personally?

Just a thought.

Ron

Damn Ron, guess what I'm wearing right now!
A black Hawaiin shirt with red and green flowers on it!
And, I have 3 others too!
You may be onto something! The bastards are already making money off of me!
I'd like to figure out a way to corner the Beanie market.

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