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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 12:40:54 PM   
camille65


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The worst thing you could do is feel ashamed or isolated.  I would list this as the number one problem in long term live in relationships, vanilla or otherwise.  And this isn't a kinky problem, it's a relationship problem.  There's a gazillion books and seminars on this- so don't feel alone and don't feel like you have to reinvent the wheel here.  And don't feel like your relationship is somehow deficient because it doesn't all magically happen- that's a myth and one of the reasons it IS such a relationship problem, because we're all taught it's not supposed to happen in good relationships and completely unprepared when it does.

Of course it starts with talking to eachother- how do you really feel?  What do you really want?  What do you expect?  What are some of the things you think caused the change?  Is this the first long term live in Ds relationship either of you have had? 

Now, this conversation will likely be a few conversations over the span of a week or two.  But if it takes just a half hour together in one night, then fabulous.

What you next need to do is each make a list of things to DO together that you KNOW you can commit to doing at least once a week, and that you KNOW will bring up some of those feelings and experiences you want to have.  Then, commit to doing at least two of them for a month.

Now, don't let that nagging voice of "It shouldn't feel like work" get to you- that's just wasted energy and completely wrong.  You've outgrown the old habits and need to form new ones, and that takes work.  Lack of focus is the cause of the problem- not the cure for the problem.

Then try it for a month.  Then, reassess.  What worked?  What didn't?  What did you like?  What would you change?  Feel free to throw the whole thing out and start over gain if it didn't.  This is all about forming a NEW relationship together.  As great as those new feelings were, that's not who or where you are now and you have to build something new together.

After 6 months of serious working on ACTIONS, if you seriously still feel like this connection isn't blooming or genuine, find a therapist and/or group to help.

 I think this is some of the best advice you can get, which is why I quoted it in its entirety. OP I do understand how it feels to have begun in one way and have it turn another way. If you love him I hope that you try, just don't give up easily. A great relationship takes work and this may be your work right now. LA I found this to be a really empathetic post with clear guidelines on how to try and make things work, I'm glad you posted it. To those saying that she may need rest after having a UM or how hard it is to reconcile your s-type with the mother image please read her post again. She brought the UM into the marriage after he finished his school year. However there is a problem with the UM and without any more details I hesitate to offer advice. Is there an acting out UM? Sudden parenthood freak out? It's too hard to say.

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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 1:26:57 PM   
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Sounds to me as if all he wanted was a wife.
You may have been duped.
You see wives get to know what their husbands like to eat and then shop and prepare food accordingly.
They also get to know what suits their husband clothing wise and shop and pick out their clothes for them.
Add to that a woman who doesn't demand anythig of them much in the bedroom.
Who goes to work, cleans house, entertains their friends, looks after the children and  fulfils their caring resposibilities for them.
Which of course leaves them free to do what they want to do with their spare time.
Of course nothing much changes when they retire.
They just have more time to do as they please.
Ready to leave him yet?
Of corse you could try dominating him.


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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 1:53:23 PM   
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To be honest here...your child has to be a priority.  Two people dating (and only spending time with each other when on that date) can devote 90% of their time to carnal pleasures if they so choose.  When those two people move in together, *especially* if there is a child involved, they really can't spend 90% of the day doing so.  Really if you are dating someone what seems like being intimate "all the time" is on average maybe 5-10 hours a week.

I would recommend that you two go out on a romantic date at least once a week.  I don't know what your finances are like, but perhaps you can find a babysitter who will watch your child in her own home once a week?  Then you two have the house to yourselves...you can recreate those feelings by going out or having a candlelit dinner at home, and be able to spend the entire evening together in an intimate sense.

I think that you definitely have to make your sex life a priority...it can be tricky when living with a young one but even if you only get to go all out one night a week, it just makes that one night more special.

Edited to add: I'm really kind of bothered by the advice "leave your husband because your sex life has cooled now that you're married and livng with a child" - really now is it any wonder divorce is 50% if everyone thinks they should cut and run the moment something turns less than perfect?


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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 2:06:02 PM   
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I have to agree with LA... serious discussion of these issues is key. I had a very similar problem in my last relationship, where the kinky sex was still happening but otherwise the D/s dynamic had evaporated, and I tried offering "random acts of submission" to no avail. It's all well and good to say that you should try acting more submissive and adding protocol to your life on your own, but submitting with no domination gets incredibly frustrating and saddening very fast.

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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 3:42:37 PM   
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All your advice has been so wonderful. Some of the things you suggested we already do i just hadnt ever really noticed, it just becomes basic daily stuff. I always defer to his preferences for food, sometimes my outfit. I am going to try all these things you have suggested though. TY so much everyone...


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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 4:47:17 PM   
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KashmirKitten, I am going to take the real approach. You know the reality check approach. One thing that is so so important is talking things out before rings or collaring happens. Anyway, you saw that things dwindled before you married and yet you still married him. That was a sign right there. Maybe he changed his mind, or he only wants you for the play, but rather have you knowing he is the Master of the home and that's it. Whatever it is, in so many ways he told you.

Now you're married and you're loving marriage but unhappy with your play partner. Which is exactly what he is at this point. So, what should you do? You have some options and please don't take offense. Or you can.

1. Deal with it and move on and wait to see if anything changes.

2. Don't deal with it and divorce him and find another Master/husband.

3. Deal with it and ask to play with someone else while he is thinks about it all. Believe me there are so many people out there that is OKAY with married couples.

Sounds like you got played. He has you collared and married. He can do pretty much anything he wants in his own time. You wait it out or you don't. Up to you...it's your life.

Good luck

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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 6:52:08 PM   
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sorry posted under wrong name


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RE: Our D/s relationship, need advice please - 11/2/2007 7:04:07 PM   
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Yes Kaiynasha, i understand what you are saying. These are the things i told myself after i realised things were changing between us. That he was a liar, that i was taken for a fool etc...But after having talked with him i know that is not the case. After my um came to live with him, and then became his stepson it was a huge change for Master Chris. He had no children and had never been around kids on a day to day basis. Yes i am going to wait it out, and i have talked with him about us getting my parents to babysit and having D/s time to ourself. Which he is all for. We have also been talking about possibly play with other couples. We are already, since yesterday, changing how we communicate and i am including him in more decision making, instead of just doing it alone.
TY again for the support everyone, it really means a lot to us.....

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